Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: The problem with this is mostly when the high line is the first line... Then (goto-char (point-min)) occasionally doesn't get you to the top of the buffer (it does get you to the first line, but it might be clipped). What happens when you replace the contents of the clipped line with something else, etc etc... Some more thought is required for this it seems to me. It also should be decided whether we want it for special applications only (that means that behaviour is allowed to be weird from the lisp side or for normal cursor moments. This will probably suffice for things like article buffers because normally these are only scrolled explicitly). I think there should also be away of reading and setting the top clip. One bold solution would be to allow window start to be a float. The fractional part would be then the clipping fraction. The should also be away to do the scrolling with the scrollbar. Jan