This problem has existed for quite some time, and exists in both 21.1p14 and 21.4p8. I run a lot of remote xemacsen via ssh (ssh tunnelling X: "ssh -n host xemacs &".) When the displaying machine reboots, or X dies, or the network goes away, the remote xemacs very often (but not always) stays running, consuming lots of cpu. For example, right now one of my machine's load is >4 because: PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 7261 jwz 25 0 22544 22M 5196 R 29.1 4.3 296:35 xemacs 27487 jwz 25 0 23652 23M 5304 R 22.3 4.6 297:40 xemacs 1078 jwz 23 0 22340 19M 4972 R 18.4 3.7 1130m xemacs None of those xemacsen should still be alive. I can't really tell where they are looping: when I attach and do "finish" from select, it doesn't come out. I guess either this is gdb malfunctioning, or there is some signal handler lossage going on. Because as you see above, the %CPU is enormous. ... (no debugging symbols found)... Attaching to program: /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.8, process 1078 (gdb) bt #0 0x420d3b2e in select () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 #1 0x404118d0 in vendorShellWidgetClass () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #2 0x403e7318 in _XtWaitForSomething () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #3 0x403e8973 in XtAppPending () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #4 0x0819dc3d in drain_X_queue () #5 0x0819dcd4 in emacs_Xt_event_pending_p () #6 0x080f8608 in event_stream_event_pending_p () #7 0x080f9112 in detect_input_pending () #8 0x080fa338 in run_pre_idle_hook () #9 0x080fa872 in Fnext_event () #10 0x0809b5f5 in Fcommand_loop_1 () #11 0x080b4762 in condition_case_1 () #12 0x0809b08a in command_loop_3 () #13 0x0809b0bb in command_loop_2 () #14 0x080b43b9 in internal_catch () #15 0x0809b217 in initial_command_loop () #16 0x080b0ca2 in xemacs_21_4_8_i386_redhat_linux () #17 0x080b1732 in main () #18 0x420158d4 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) quit The program is running. Quit anyway (and detach it)? (y or n) y Detaching from program: /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.8, process 1078 ... Attaching to program: /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.8, process 7261 0x403e6bef in XtChangeManagedSet () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (gdb) bt #0 0x403e6bef in XtChangeManagedSet () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #1 0x403e71c3 in _XtWaitForSomething () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #2 0x403e8973 in XtAppPending () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #3 0x0819dc3d in drain_X_queue () #4 0x0819dcd4 in emacs_Xt_event_pending_p () #5 0x080f8608 in event_stream_event_pending_p () #6 0x080f9112 in detect_input_pending () #7 0x0816900b in redisplay_device () #8 0x081692a7 in redisplay_without_hooks () #9 0x080fa877 in Fnext_event () #10 0x0809b5f5 in Fcommand_loop_1 () #11 0x080b4762 in condition_case_1 () #12 0x0809b08a in command_loop_3 () #13 0x0809b0bb in command_loop_2 () #14 0x080b43b9 in internal_catch () #15 0x0809b217 in initial_command_loop () #16 0x080b0ca2 in xemacs_21_4_8_i386_redhat_linux () #17 0x080b1732 in main () #18 0x420158d4 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) quit The program is running. Quit anyway (and detach it)? (y or n) y Detaching from program: /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.8, process 7261 ... (no debugging symbols found)... Attaching to program: /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.8, process 27487 (gdb) bt #0 0x403e6cf8 in XtChangeManagedSet () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #1 0x403e71c3 in _XtWaitForSomething () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #2 0x403e8973 in XtAppPending () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 #3 0x0819dc3d in drain_X_queue () #4 0x0819dcd4 in emacs_Xt_event_pending_p () #5 0x080f8608 in event_stream_event_pending_p () #6 0x080f9112 in detect_input_pending () #7 0x0816900b in redisplay_device () #8 0x081692a7 in redisplay_without_hooks () #9 0x080fa877 in Fnext_event () #10 0x0809b5f5 in Fcommand_loop_1 () #11 0x080b4762 in condition_case_1 () #12 0x0809b08a in command_loop_3 () #13 0x0809b0bb in command_loop_2 () #14 0x080b43b9 in internal_catch () #15 0x0809b217 in initial_command_loop () #16 0x080b0ca2 in xemacs_21_4_8_i386_redhat_linux () #17 0x080b1732 in main () #18 0x420158d4 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (gdb) quit The program is running. Quit anyway (and detach it)? (y or n) y Detaching from program: /usr/bin/xemacs-21.4.8, process 27487 rpm -q xemacs: xemacs-21.4.8-16 Linux 2.4.18-14 #1 Wed Sep 4 12:13:11 EDT 2002 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux Red Hat Linux release 8.0 (Psyche) -- Jamie Zawinski jwz(a)jwz.org http://www.jwz.org/ jwz(a)dnalounge.com http://www.dnalounge.com/