Matthew> SL Baur wrote: Matthew> [snip] Matthew> I've just go to ask: does SUMO stand for anything or is Matthew> it reflective of the tarball's size? Matthew> And, just for kicks, which file is pre-11? The latest I Matthew> see is b54. Hello Matthew, this is the version.sh of XEmacs 21.0-pre11 "Finnish Landrace" which technically isn't a beta release anymore. #!/bin/sh emacs_major_version=21 emacs_minor_version=0 emacs_beta_version= xemacs_codename="Finnish Landrace" infodock_major_version=4 infodock_minor_version=0 infodock_build_version=4 You get it all by fetching xemacs-21.0-b54.tar.gz I think the announcement should have made this clear. Without knowing all the history of xemacs-beta over the past few weeks or months it's impossible to know that pre11 === b54. HTH, Adrian Matthew> -- Matthew> #!/usr/bin/perl -- Matthew O. Persico Matthew> print "Just Another Perl Neophyte\n"; Matthew> ## Simplicity is a blessing when you're Matthew> ## supporting the program at 2AM -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com