Hi Stephen, Thanks! So far, that patch seems to have fixed the problems with KDE's kwin and Gnome's metacity. Compiz (Novell's combined composite/window manager for Xgl) still has some problems but it seems to be better now, too. It's so new that I wouldn't bother about that yet. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Wulf C. Krüger ________________________________ T-Systems Systems Integration Project Center WPMS Solution & Service Center Business Enabling Solutions Global Competence Center T-Systems Enterprise Services GmbH Salzachstr. 4 - 12, 68199 Mannheim +49-621-8456-205 (Tel) E-Mail: wulf.krueger(a)t-systems.com Internet: http://www.t-systems.com ________________________________