Troy> Hey all, Troy> I compiled XEmacs 21.2 b36 from sources with Visual C++ 5.0 Troy> on my own machine in anticipation of firing up a debug Troy> session and looking in the problem some more (namely Troy> indent_to in indent.c. does not honor indent-tabs-mode=nil Troy> setting). Troy> Guess what, indent-tabs-mode = nil works just fine in my Troy> compiled version. Very puzzling. Troy> So I'm not sure why the pre-compiled binary of Troy> XEmacs-21.2-b36-win32.zip off the net is broken. Also makes Troy> me wonder what else is broken in that same beta build??? Troy> Guess I need to send a mail to the individual who builds the Troy> kit and find out how they built it and try to put our heads Troy> together to figure out why their binary didn't work and mine Troy> did. In theory, they should function identically, right? Troy> Is it possible to run strings and grep out the version ID's Troy> of all the C files used to build the program? Maybe I'll Troy> try that. I suppose that won't work thought if the binary Troy> was stripped... My thought here is that maybe we both used Troy> different versions of the source to build from? I would Troy> hope not though. Hi Troy, we need a lot more info. That's how problems can get solved: facts. How did you get the sources (CVS or tarballs)? If CVS, what's the command you used to get the sources you built from? If you did a "cvs update" to the latest sources (instead of -r r21-2-36) then you got the latest sources at that particular time, which is something after 21.2-b36, more close to a future 21.2-b37. So you did a Windows native build, right? Please send us your xemacs/nt/config.inc file then. Did you use the portable dumper option (we can tell from config.inc)? These are just a few simple question on the way to solve the mystery. Best regards, Adrian Troy> Troy Troy> -----Original Message----- Troy> From: Troy Noble [mailto:troy.noble＠channelpoint.com] Troy> Sent: Friday, October 20, 2000 4:20 PM Troy> To: &#39;xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org&#39; Troy> Subject: (setq indent-tabs-mode nil) not working in 21.2b36 on NT? Troy> I'm running: Troy> XEmacs 21.2 (beta36) "Notus" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Wed Oct 11 2000 on Troy> NEVERYON Troy> Even when I have indent-tabs-mode set to nil, XEmacs is inserting Troy> tabs for indents. Troy> Doesn't matter whether I use (setq-default indent-tabs-mode nil) to set Troy> it globally, or use (setq indent-tabs-mode nil) to set it buffer local. Troy> Also Troy> doesn't matter whether it's cperl-mode, java-mode, cc-mode, or Troy> just good ol' text-mode. Troy> I searched back through the xemacs-beta archives and saw this Troy> same thing reported last back in July for b34. I am still seeing the Troy> same problem with the 21.2b36 binary for NT. So assume it Troy> has not been fixed. Troy> I built the 21.2b36 from source on RedHat Linux 6.2, and using Troy> the same .emacs options file... it works just fine. Also works just Troy> fine on XEmacs 21.1.9 on NT win32. Troy> BTW, diff'd lisp/indent.el from XEmacs 21.1.9 with this one, and it hasn't Troy> changed since then. So it's gotta be lower down. Suspect it's in the Troy> indent.c Troy> somewhere, which was also the conclusion of the last round of discussions Troy> that I read. Troy> So what would cause indent.c to function differently on NT than on Linux? Troy> One thing I did not do is build on Linux with mule support, and maybe Troy> the NT binary does? Troy> Am out of ideas unless I get a chance to re-compile it myself Troy> from scratch on NT (which sounded sorta involved)... Troy> I'd rather not do so if someone else has any better ideas. Troy> Thanks! Troy -- Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org&gt;, http://www.xemacs.org