General discussion, moved to xemacs-beta. drv> NOTE: Something similar (the replace-in-string part) should drv> probably be applied to 21.4, but I don't have it handy For 21.4, don't hesitate to use the RECOMMEND keyword even if the patch won't apply. I would consider it a courtesy if you'd mention the fact that you don't think it applies in the explanation. If I want help, I can ask for it. It's more important that I notice the recommendation. I don't know how Vin and Steve feel about 21.1 and 21.5, but my suggestion is to use "RECOMMEND" to make sure it's noticed, until they say otherwise. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py