Andy> I am currently using my modified movemail to retrieve and Andy> filter my mail via pop3 (a bit like procmail and movemail Andy> combined) for gnus. This is ok but is slow and presents no Andy> feedback to the user under mswindows. Andy> I notice that gnus distributes pop3.el but doesn't appear to Andy> use it. I also notice that vm includes its own pop Andy> access. Is it worth trying to unify these different Andy> lisp-based access methods (and add my filtering) and squeeze Andy> some more speed in the process? Andy> What does vm-pop do that pop3 doesn't? Does anyone use Andy> pop3.el with gnus? Are there any other pop access packages? Hello Andy, this is what I just found: vm-pop.el of vm-version "6.62" uses the POP command UIDL[1] to remember already-popped messages. This is a great feature! pop3.el of gnus-version "Gnus v5.6.44" doesn't do that. The consequency of this is that one new message arriving on the POP server will cause the, say, 500 previously popped messages to be popped again, in addition to the new one! I don't want to delete these 500 messages on the POP server[2]. The current workaround is to start Loc^Htus Notes once in a while and mark them all read, after making sure I have popped them already[3]. I seem to remember someone was going to look into unifying POP support for VM and Gnus (VM having a much higher gravity, I presume). Any news on this project or whatver became of it? Regards, Adrian Andy> andy Andy> --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andy> " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier Andy> than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Andy> Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: Andy> www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp Footnotes: [1] if the POP server supports it [2] and even though pop3.el issues the DELE command (irregardless) it does not appear to work. [3] what a drag :-( -- Adrian Aichner Applications Engineer Teradyne GmbH Semiconductor Test Group Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com