Andy, HAAAAAALP! xemacs -vanilla & M-x customize-variable RET default-toolbar-position RET <select 'left from VALUE menu> <click SET> <select 'top from VALUE menu> <click SET> Persistent bugger, too. The only way I've been able to get rid of it is to either unmap and remap the window, or to obscure it. Even making the toolbar invisible then visible doesn't help. ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Linux tleeps18 2.2.19sjt #1 Sun Oct 14 00:10:11 JST 2001 i686 unknown ../../21.4/configure '--srcdir' '../../21.4' '--with-mule' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-xfs' '--with-canna=no' '--with-wnn=no' '--with-wnn6=no' '--with-dialogs=athena' '--with-widgets=athena' '--with-athena=3d' '--with-ipv6-cname=no' '--with-modules' '--pdump' '--use-union-type' '--rel-alloc' '--debug' '--error-checking=all' '--external-widget' XEmacs 21.4.6 "Common Lisp" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /usr/local/src/XEmacs/21.4 Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow Relocating allocator for buffers: yes GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw3d - Athena library to link: Xaw3d Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for NAS (network audio system). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: postgresql/libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the union type for Lisp_Objects. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- [rest of bug report stuff snipped]