Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Jan Rychter wrote:
>>>>>>"Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
>>>>>>"Reiner" == Reiner Steib
> Reiner> Can we expect _any_ reaction (yes, no, maybe) from the XEmacs
> Reiner> board?
> Stephen> Unfortunately, at this time we're very short-handed for
> Stephen> reviewers and developers in general. If there was negative
> Stephen> feeling, you'd get a "no", so the answer is
"maybe" until it
> Stephen> turns into "yes". This is a shortcoming of our relatively
> Stephen> decentralized process.
> Reiner> Am I posting to the wrong list?
> Stephen> No and yes. For what you posted that I'm responding to, this
> Stephen> is the right place.
> Stephen> If you want to help something to get done a lot faster, you
> Stephen> can post a full patch (in the case of a new file, either a
> Stephen> patch against /dev/null or the file as an attachment is OK),
> Stephen> with appropriate XEmacs-format changelog, to XEmacs Patches
> Stephen> <xemacs-patches(a)xemacs.org>.
>I did just that about a year ago -- I posted a reasonably simple patch
>that adds about 4 lines of code to the XEmacs code base. I brought the
>issue up again about three weeks ago, and a couple of days ago, but it
>seems continuous nagging doesn't get me anywhere.
>The patch (mswindows window id property for XEmacs frames) is necessary,
>because without it I cannot support people who want to use my vx-mode
>package for dictation with XEmacs under Windows. As it is, my user base
>is limited to people who use Linux and run Dragon NaturallySpeaking
>under VMware, a rather rare combination.
>I'm getting increasingly disappointed -- I initially switched to XEmacs
>because I found the developer community to be more responsive and code
>would change quicker. I hate sending those nagging E-mails, it annoys
>the developers, it annoys me, and causes people to dislike me for no
>good reason. Should I just give up, rework vx-mode to use properties
>instead of extents and switch to FSF Emacs?
>I understand "being short-handed for developers", but this attitude will
>cause even more developers to go elsewhere.
hello Jan. i checked your feature to the latest CVS. i have to
personally apologize for not getting to this sooner; too much has been
going on lately. i changed it slightly so that the value of the
`window-id' property is a string, like in X windows. also, it is
currently only available through `frame-property'; i didn't implement
`mswindows-window-id'. (if we want something like this, it should be
please also note that david kastrup's views are not shared by the
xemacs developers as a whole. i for one am committed to having good
ms windows support in xemacs, and in fact do all my development under
windows [with lots of help from cygwin].
Hello Ben, I think you misunderstood David, who was talking about
Emacs' (specifically RMS') commitment to Windows support, not XEmacs'.