On 10 May 2000, William M. Perry <wmperry(a)aventail.com&gt; wrote: OK, FWIW, I would /not/ want to be able to move the menu bar around. I like it stuck just where it is, and find that the Netscape movable bar gets misplaced every now and then. I can't see my preferences changing half way through a session, or between frames. If they did, it would be to experiment, and so a little flicker would not bother me... [...] Please. *This* I like. One of the more useful UI features out there. Daniel -- We fear that pop-culture is the only culture we're ever going to have. We want to stop reading magazines, stop watching tv, stop caring about Hollywood, but we're addicted to the things we hate. -- KMFDF, _Dogma_