b41 is really turning into a suckfest under cygwin for me. Martin, gcc -O3 loses big time under cygwin. Can we possibly undo this change? Surely people can bump the optimization level if they really want it? I was getting all sorts of bogues crashes in the extent code with -O3 (i.e. I couldn't get XEmacs up and running) which all went away with -O2. I suspect that a couple of the other fixes I posted were related to gcc -O3. andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp