KB> Now I find that /usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.8/lisp/*.el[c] KB> have permissions set to the user who compiled XEmacs KB> and not root. For some reason (efficiency?) the lisp files are copied using tar cf - | tar xf -. The permissions are a bug but I don't know when it will get fixed. GNU tar has an option to do this right, but I don't know whether it's generic. I'll put investigating that on the todo list. KB> Also when I do C-h v use-dialog-box this is what I get: KB> `use-dialog-box' is a variable declared in Lisp. KB> -- loaded from "/u/scratch/downloads/lisp/xemacs-21.4.8/lisp/minibuf.elc" KB> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ KB> Shouldn't this say /usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.8/lisp/minibuf.elc ? This is arguable, but probably not. The file in question is preloaded at build time from the former directory. The latter is normally a copy of the former, but need not be. The latter normally is _not_ loaded, and if you have edited the installed copy, this can be very confusing. This should be indicated explicitly, eg s/loaded/dumped/. On the other hand, find-lib should find the installed copy. Finally, identification of the files actually loaded should not be done by name, but with a hash or something. This is a design change and won't happen in 21.4. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py