SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: sb> Two things, one of which you've already discounted. Since late sb> 1996, the most popular binary kits downloaded from ftp.xemacs.og sb> have been for Linux. The second is based on the number of Linux sb> CD ROM distributions XEmacs appears on. Admittedly, I also have sb> no hard numbers on how many people have installed XEmacs off of sb> Linux CD ROMs. Downloads isn't really a good measurement of users, though. I recognize that this is a Hard Problem, but consider that in my case, I will download the source distribution, build it and install it for something like 4500 potential users. I can't comment on the number of actual users with more granularity than saying "thousands".[1] Making things single-user at the expense of multi-user ease of administration can very easily reduce XEmacs' viability in this environment. Not something I'm really interested in seeing, given that I just fought the fight to migrate from GNU Emacs to XEmacs. Footnote: 1 Good grief. I think I'm starting to understand where all my time is gone. I feel like Mr. Support Man(tm) instead of Mr. Hacker around here. Oddly enough, it wasn't until just now that I could figure out why. -- Matt Curtin cmcurtin(a)interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/