Simon> Must mwheel.el be in XEmacs core? You tell us. I would like to get as much of stuff out of core and into packages as possible. We do need a way to distribute some packages in a bootstrap distro (eg, xemacs-base and EFS) before this can be fully implemented, but that shouldn't be that hard. We also need a way to handle the transition because it implies there will be shadows (package shadows core) by policy. The criterion is basically whether it is an _implementation_ of a basic Lisp API, including initialization, or just a user. Examples of packaged libraries that should be in core are annotations.el (from xemacs-base, implementation) and latin-unity-latin9.el (from latin-unity, initialization). An example of a core library that should be in packages is lisp-mnt.el. Of course there are debates about basic vs extension; cl.el is considered an extension in GNU Emacs, core in XEmacs. But that shouldn't stop you from proposing a change in status. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py