I would be sad if you did remove that page.
I was not trying to be critical of XEmacs, or the fellows
who maintain it.
I was just trying to show the extent of the problem,
or what I am thinking is the problem (I could be wrong).
I have trouble following these directions and I think
that other new people might too. And I think that
some people who are expert lisp coders and have
been doing this for so long are so far removed from
being a beginner, that they can not clearly see what
trips a beginner up, because they *know* the answers
to some of my questions instinctively.
(and yeah, I'm still a rank beginner compared to others here).
I spent three hours writing that post because I want
things to be better, and I am willing to be part of the
solution--I'm willing to re-write that page, but cannot do
it alone because I don't *know* enough yet.
Even if I got some help, ie someone who, once I rewrite it,
can correct it and pass it back, I would still have to figure out
how to upload it to the website which is on mercurial
if I recall correctly. The website seems so interconnected
with the links on each page pointing to other pages that
I would be afraid of getting all the links hooked back up and
working again after replacing a page. Maybe that would
work itself out someway.
There are so few developers on XEmacs, that I cannot
complain that the website needs their attention, instead
of the coding they do. I'm willing to help.
There are a lot of things wrong with the website that
a person does not need to know XEmacs architecture to
fix. On the "http://www.xemacs.org/Download/win32
/index.html#InnoSetup-Beta-Download" page, about
1/4 of the links are no longer working.
They need explored to see if the page has moved
or if it is not there at all at this time. I can explore things
like that and report what needs changed. But I
would not like to report such things if it meant there
was a chance the page would be taken down.
Would you consider, instead of deleting the page,
putting a statement at the top of it, something like:
"The definitive install instructions for each version of
XEmacs is the INSTALL file in the top directory of
the source code for that version. What follows is
general directions written some time ago that may need
updated when there is time and people to do so."
On 11/03/2012 01:02 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
steven Mitchell writes:
> Feedback from
The definitive instructions are in the file INSTALL in the top
directory of the sources. I think for now I'm just going to remove
this page, or make it point to the INSTALL file.
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