TO whom it may concern: I have really tried to get these two programs to work together as best I can. But I am giving up. Here is all the information ( I think ) that I can give you: NT 4.0 SP 4 Xemacs 21.4.3 OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.3 \"Academic Rigor\" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in \"i:\\build\\xemacs\\xemacs\\nt\". Using compiler \"cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML\". Installing XEmacs in \"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.3\". Package path is \"~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using minimal tagbits. Using indexed lrecord implementation. Using portable dumper. PACkAGES THAT I HAVE INSTALLED: Warning: No download sites specified. Package index may be out of date. If you intend to install packages, specify download sites first. Latest Installed Package name Vers. Vers. Description =============================================================================== Sun 1.13 1.13 Support for Sparcworks. ada 1.10 1.10 Ada language support. apel 1.23 1.23 A Portable Emacs Library. Used by XEmacs MIME support. auctex 1.31 1.31 Basic TeX/LaTeX support. bbdb 1.20 1.20 The Big Brother Data Base build 1.05 1.05 Build XEmacs from within (UNIX, Windows). c-support 1.16 1.16 Basic single-file add-ons for editing C code. calc 1.23 1.23 Emacs calculator calendar 1.18 1.18 Calendar and diary support. cc-mode 1.28 1.28 C, C++ and Java language support. - clearcase 1.03 ----- New Clearcase Version Control for XEmacs (UNIX, Windows). cookie 1.14 1.14 Spook and Yow (Zippy quotes). crisp 1.12 1.12 Crisp/Brief emulation. debug 1.15 1.15 GUD, gdb, dbx debugging support. dictionary 1.11 1.11 Interface to RFC2229 dictionary servers. dired 1.12 1.12 Manage file systems. edebug 1.14 1.14 An Emacs Lisp debugger. - edict 1.13 ----- MULE: Lisp Interface to EDICT, Kanji Dictionary ediff 1.41 1.41 Interface over GNU patch. edit-utils 1.88 1.88 Miscellaneous editor extensions, you probably need this. edt 1.12 1.12 DEC EDIT/EDT emulation. efs 1.29 1.29 Treat files on remote systems the same as local files. - egg-its 1.26 ----- MULE: Wnn (4.2 and 6) support. SJ3 support. eieio 1.02 1.02 Enhanced Implementation of Emacs Interpreted Objects elib 1.10 1.10 Portable Emacs Lisp utilities library. emerge 1.09 1.09 Another interface over GNU patch. eshell 1.03 1.03 Command shell implemented entirely in Emacs Lisp - ess 1.02 ----- ESS: Emacs Speaks Statistics. eterm 1.13 1.13 Terminal emulation. eudc 1.36 1.36 Emacs Unified Directory Client (LDAP, PH). footnote 1.15 1.15 Footnoting in mail message editing modes. forms 1.14 1.14 Forms editing support (obsolete, use Widget instead). frame-icon 1.09 1.09 Set up mode-specific icons for each frame under XEmacs fsf-compat 1.11 1.11 FSF Emacs compatibility files. games 1.13 1.13 Tetris, Sokoban, and Snake. gnats 1.14 1.14 XEmacs bug reports. gnus 1.61 1.61 The Gnus Newsreader and Mailreader. - haskell-mode 1.03 ----- Haskell editing support. hm--html-menus 1.18 1.18 HTML editing. - ibuffer 1.07 ----- Advanced replacement for buffer-menu idlwave 1.25 1.25 Editing and Shell mode for the Interactive Data Language igrep 1.08 1.08 Enhanced front-end for Grep. ilisp 1.26 1.26 Front-end for Inferior Lisp. ispell 1.24 1.24 Spell-checking with GNU ispell. jde 1.35 1.35 Java language and development support. - latin-unity 1.05 ----- MULE: find single ISO 8859 character set to encode a buffer. - leim 1.18 ----- MULE: Quail. All non-English and non-Japanese language support. - liece 1.05 ----- IRC (Internet Relay Chat) client for Emacs. - locale 1.18 ----- MULE: Localized menubars and localized splash screens. - lookup 1.10 ----- MULE: Dictionary support mail-lib 1.46 1.46 Fundamental lisp files for providing email support. mailcrypt 2.11 2.11 Support for messaging encryption with PGP. mew 1.17 1.17 Messaging in an Emacs World. mh-e 1.14 1.14 Front end support for MH. mine 1.14 1.14 Minehunt Game. misc-games 1.15 1.15 Other amusements and diversions. - mmm-mode 1.00 ----- Multiple major modes in a single buffer - mule-base 1.40 ----- MULE: Basic Mule support, required for building with Mule. - mule-ucs 1.04 ----- MULE: Extended coding systems (including Unicode) for XEmacs. net-utils 1.25 1.25 Miscellaneous Networking Utilities. os-utils 1.28 1.28 Miscellaneous O/S utilities. pc 1.25 1.25 PC style interface emulation. pcl-cvs 1.63 1.63 CVS frontend. pcomplete 1.01 1.01 Provides programmatic completion. prog-modes 1.57 1.57 Support for various programming languages. ps-print 1.04 1.04 Printing functions and utilities psgml 1.28 1.28 Validated HTML/SGML editing. reftex 1.25 1.25 Emacs support for LaTeX cross-references, citations.. rmail 1.13 1.13 An obsolete Emacs mailer. scheme 1.11 1.11 Front-end support for Inferior Scheme. semantic 1.12 1.12 Semantic bovinator (Yacc/Lex for XEmacs). Includes Senator. sgml 1.08 1.08 SGML/Linuxdoc-SGML editing. sh-script 1.15 1.15 Support for editing shell scripts. - sieve 1.07 ----- Manage Sieve email filtering scripts. - skk 1.22 ----- MULE: Japanese Language Input Method. slider 1.13 1.13 User interface tool. sounds-au 1.10 1.10 XEmacs Sun sound files. sounds-wav 1.10 1.10 XEmacs Microsoft sound files. speedbar 1.23 1.23 Provides a separate frame with convenient references. strokes 1.08 1.08 Mouse enhancement utility. supercite 1.19 1.19 An Emacs citation tool for News & Mail messages. texinfo 1.20 1.20 XEmacs TeXinfo support. text-modes 1.46 1.46 Miscellaneous support for editing text files. textools 1.12 1.12 Miscellaneous TeX support. time 1.11 1.11 Display time & date on the modeline. tm 1.32 1.32 Emacs MIME support. Not needed for gnus >= 5.8.0 tooltalk 1.13 1.13 Support for building with Tooltalk. tpu 1.12 1.12 DEC EDIT/TPU support. - tramp 1.05 ----- Remote shell-based file editing. vc 1.33 1.33 Version Control for Free systems. vc-cc 1.21 1.21 Version Control for ClearCase (UnFree) systems. vhdl 1.15 1.15 Support for VHDL. view-process 1.11 1.11 A Unix process browsing tool. viper 1.34 1.34 VI emulation support. vm 7.07 7.07 An Emacs mailer. w3 1.23 1.23 A Web browser. xemacs-base 1.63 1.63 Fundamental XEmacs support, you almost certainly need this. xemacs-devel 1.44 1.44 Emacs Lisp developer support. - xslide 1.01 ----- XSL editing support. xslt-process 1.07 1.07 XSLT processing support. zenirc 1.13 1.13 ZENIRC IRC Client. =============================================================================== Symbols in the leftmost column: + The package is marked for installation. - The package has not been installed. D The package has been marked for deletion. * The currently installed package is old, and a newer version is available. Useful keys: `return' to select/unselect the current package for installation. `d' to select/unselect the current package for removal. `r' to add any packages required by those selected. `x' to install/delete selected packages. `i' to display additional information about the package in the modeline. `g' to refresh the package list. `v' to toggle between a verbose and non-verbose display. `q' to kill this buffer. bash-2.05$ ispell -v ＠(#) International Ispell Version 3.1.20 10/10/95 Ispell seems to work but when I use it from xemacs I get the following: args out of range -- or version 3.release 3.1.12 or greater required They just dont work are play well togeter hints clues, or just plain--- we don't have it working yet? etm emarsh(a)wideopenwest.com PS- any other information about window stuff like ssh or telnet would be helpful is seem to be having trouble there also Please describe as succinctly as possible: - What happened. - What you thought should have happened. - Precisely what you were doing at the time.