At 09:33 AM 8/25/98 +0200, Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor] wrote: Which time? Scoping rules get applied to CL macros twice, once when the macro function is executed, and again when the result of the macro is executed. (Let's remember, a macro is just a function that returns an executable form as its value.) It seems that we are approaching the point where we "agree to disagree". The CL people are used to doing macros the CL way and, consequently, don't see much benefit to the Scheme method of doing macros. The Scheme people, on the other hand, are used to doing macros the Scheme way and don't see much benefit to the CL method of doing macros. We have each learned to work around the deficiencies of our preferred Lisp environments. Craig Lanning E-Mail: CraigL(a)InternetX.net