================================================================ Dear Bug Team! First, let me start by saying I'm not convinced this is an XEmacs bug. However, I only see it with XEmacs (so far). I'm working from home today. Rather than squint at my Mac Powerbook's screen I thought I would use my nice spiffy G5 with the 20" Apple Cinema display. I'm running Mac OSX 10.4.6 on both machines as well as Apple's X11 server (looks like XFree86 4.4.0 according to xdpyinfo). I ssh'd into both the machine at work and my laptop (-X flag set to shoot X protocol over the ssh connection) and executed gnuclient -q. The work machine is Solaris 10. XEmacs there is 21.4.15 and is dynamically linked to /usr/openwin/lib/blah-blah-blah, that is, Sun's stuff. The XEmacs on the laptop (which I'm sending this mail from) is configured as below. The Solaris/XEmacs 21.4.15 window behaves fine. Goes where I put it, doesn't move of its own accord, etc. For the first couple hours that I had the gnuclient window up from my laptop however, it demanded to be at the left edge of the screen and it frequently "jittered" left-and-right, sort of like the shaking the Mac's login dialog does when you type your password incorrectly. Whatever was causing the problem before, it seems to have subsided. I can now move the window without it warping back to the left edge of the screen and it isn't shaking anymore. While I wasn't always looking at my laptop screen, at some times the window from where I fired up gnuclient threw off errors like this: X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 3 (X_GetWindowAttributes) Resource id in failed request: 0x400020 Serial number of failed request: 90192 Current serial number in output stream: 90193 I know there are a bunch of variables here (multiple X libraries, XEmacs varsions, running over ssh, etc), but does this weird behavior sound familiar to anyone? Thx, -- Skip Montanaro - skip(a)pobox.com - http://www.mojam.com/ "The values to which people cling most stubbornly under inappropriate conditions are those values that were previously the source of their greatest triumphs over adversity." -- Jared Diamond in "Collapse" ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- uname -a: Darwin montanaro.dyndns.org 8.5.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.5.0: Sun Jan 22 10:38:46 PST 2006; root:xnu-792.6.61.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc ./configure '--prefix=/Users/skip/local' '--with-optimization' '--without-error-checking' 'LDFLAGS=-L/sw/lib' 'CPPFLAGS=-I/sw/include' XEmacs 21.5-b25 "eggplant" (+CVS-20060318) configured for `powerpc-apple-darwin8.5.0'. Compilation Environment and Installation Defaults: Source code location: /Users/skip/src/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /Users/skip/local Operating system description file: `s/darwin.h' Machine description file: `m/powerpc.h' Compiler version: powerpc-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.0 (GCC) 4.0.0 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 5026) - GCC specs file: specs. - Compiler command: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Wundef -Wsign-compare -Wno-char-subscripts -Wpacked -Wpointer-arith -Wunused-parameter -g -O3 libc version: Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: no - The GNU allocators don't work with this system configuration. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for GNU DBM. Compiling in support for LDAP. Internationalization: Mail: Compiling in support for "file" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup. Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new GC mark algorithms (KKCC). WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: The new algorithms are experimental. They are enabled by WARNING: default for this release. Use `--disable-kkcc' to WARNING: turn it off. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- Using the new portable dumper. Dumping into executable. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. 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