They are very bad, BAD people. XEmacs/GTK was handling alt/meta differently than their version, but the same as a 'real' build from pristine XEmacs 21.1.12 sources. Sooo, the user found this little patch in the mandrake source RPM: --- xemacs-21.1.9/src/events-mod.h.chmou Sun Nov 9 08:07:51 1997 +++ xemacs-21.1.9/src/events-mod.h Fri Mar 24 14:21:24 2000 ＠＠ -4,5 +4,5 ＠＠ #define MOD_META (1<<1) #define MOD_SUPER (1<<2) #define MOD_HYPER (1<<3) -#define MOD_ALT (1<<4) +#define MOD_ALT (1<<1) #define MOD_SHIFT (1<<5) /* not used for dual-case characters */ Must... control... fist... of... death... -bp