4:47 p.m.
Hi.
Is anyone producing snapshot packages of XEmacs from the Mercurial
repository for Debian?
(Like the emacs-snapshot CVS packages Romain Francoise make here:
http://emacs.orebokech.com/)
?
Best regards,
Adam
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8:59 a.m.
Adam Sjøgren writes:
Is anyone producing snapshot packages of XEmacs from the Mercurial
repository for Debian?
Not that I know of. Debian has never been particularly active in
XEmacs circles; I think it's been 10 years since a Debian maintainer
posted to an XEmacs list, except as a crosspost.
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9:49 a.m.
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Adam Sjøgren writes:
> Is anyone producing snapshot packages of XEmacs from the Mercurial
> repository for Debian?
Not that I know of. Debian has never been particularly active in
XEmacs circles; I think it's been 10 years since a Debian maintainer
posted to an XEmacs list, except as a crosspost.
The Debian package system for Emacs/XEmacs is an overengineered mess
(the idea is that .el files for all Emacs versions as well as XEmacs are
just present once in the file system, and the .elc files are elsewhere).
The situation is quite bad enough for Emacs, but in connection with the
XEmacs package system and Sumo and other possibly conflicting stuff,
things are even worse. Nowadays XEmacs users tend not to fall under the
"I installed it because it comes with the system and works" brand but be
a bit more dedicated.
And the more dedicated users of Emacs, and of XEmacs in particular, will
just chuck the Debian packaging and compile their own binaries, because
there is no way you are going to find out how to get things to work the
way you intended and the upstream documentation describes.
IIRC, /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp is early in the load-path for XEmacs.
You don't want to think too hard about that.
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10:54 p.m.
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 16:59:01 +0900, Stephen wrote:
Adam Sjøgren writes:
> Is anyone producing snapshot packages of XEmacs from the
Mercurial
> repository for Debian?
Not that I know of. Debian has never been particularly active in
XEmacs circles; I think it's been 10 years since a Debian maintainer
posted to an XEmacs list, except as a crosspost.
Ok; I've tried to make something similar to what Romain Francoise has
done with emacs-snapshot now:
* http://xemacs.koldfront.dk/
It should update daily at around 9 CEST iff something has happened in
the Mercurial repository.
I am not a Debian developer, and my packaging has some rough edges, but
I can install them, and I run them on my desktop currently.
Best regards,
Adam
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11:01 p.m.
On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 10:49:14 +0200, David wrote:
And the more dedicated users of Emacs, and of XEmacs in particular,
will
just chuck the Debian packaging and compile their own binaries, because
there is no way you are going to find out how to get things to work the
way you intended and the upstream documentation describes.
I, then, fall in the category of less dedicated users.
When I need to install an editor on a random machine, it is usually
because I need the tool to do the job, which, for me, isn't the best
time to be looking up configure options I forgot and prerequisites I
don't care to remember.
So I don't care to hand-compile my tools on all the various machines I
use - I prefer to simply install the packages and be done with it.
Different strokes for more and less dedicated users, I guess.
Best regards,
Adam
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1:43 p.m.
Ar an dara lá de mí Lúnasa, scríobh David Kastrup:
And the more dedicated users of Emacs, and of XEmacs in particular,
will
just chuck the Debian packaging and compile their own binaries, because
there is no way you are going to find out how to get things to work the
way you intended and the upstream documentation describes.
This dedicated user of XEmacs is currently doing contract work on a machine
where he’s not getting paid to compile XEmacs, but apt-get install xemacs
was easy and helpful, even if it did install 21.4.
IIRC, /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp is early in the load-path for
XEmacs.
You don't want to think too hard about that.
Yes, that’s unimpressive.
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5:34 p.m.
Adam Sjøgren writes:
Ok; I've tried to make something similar to what Romain Francoise
has
done with emacs-snapshot now:
* http://xemacs.koldfront.dk/
Thank you very much! I'm currently off at a day-job-related
conference, but on the weekend I'll install it on my Debian system and
see how it goes.
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