Gary D Foster <Gary.Foster(a)Corp.Sun.COM&gt; writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: I'm not seriously considering this. End of discussion. Except, see below ... I was pointing out an observation based on what (flawed?) statistical data I had and my belief that usage of Unix systems will (continue to) tend towards Free variants. Nothing more, nothing less. O.K. We are having serious problems keeping XEmacs properly implemented on Unix. No, `serious' doesn't begin to describe the situation. We do not build on latest AIX. You, you and you go fix it. The problem, of course, is that other than Michael Sperber we don't appear to have anyone support AIX. Let's move on to DG/UX and ... forget DG/UX because noone has ever turned in a build report for that system in my tenure as XEmacs maintainer. When I tried configuring on such a system it bombed miserably. O.K. Let's move on to SGI/Irix. Are we passed the traditional XEmacs Fuckage or aren't we? I don't know. Darren Stalder was kindly enough to donate access to a system to test on and ... I never heard heard anything since from the SGI volunteer. O.K. So let's try Solaris. It's the most popular commercial Unix in the market, surely it is getting developer support? *Wrong*! We continue to get crash reports with annotations tickled by the EOS support. There have been hundreds if not thousands of these reports since they've been aimed at me. Is there any developer running with Sun Solaris? Hello? DEC OSF/1 on Alpha has had a long history of breakage with noone working on it. The amount of people working on it has decreased since I became maintainer. If you're concerned that your company's hardware supports XEmacs, send me equipment to test it on. OMRON sent me Wnn6 for testing purposes, and thus XEmacs will *always* support it. (I'm linking their ancient static library against glibc-2.0.7-pre5 with the latest and greatest? Linux 2.1 kernel and it *still* works. The Wnn6 server is the only libc5 binary I usually have running). That is my world view, and that is why I consider commercial Unix support falling apart at the seams. If *you* don't like it, do something about it or send me equipment and software with appropriate licenses and I can take a look at it. Don't just complain about it. It doesn't do anyone any good.