I've been playing around with b62 and I can't update packages using Manage Pakcages->Using custom->update. I get the error - "cannot open load-file package-get-custom". The ui stuff works fine. Also under nt I see List & Installl instead of List & Install andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp