in my continuing role as dain-bramaged luser, I've gotten myself into this situation a couple of times, so I thought I'd mention it o I do stuff, then decide to C-x C-c (usually involved some customize) o minibuffer msg says .shadow-todo changed on disk, do I really want to edit the buffer? o since I don't even know what .shadow-todo is, I'm not sure how I answered, but I think I've tried both y and n, but I'm just not sure - in any event, after that C-x C-c fails with: Signaling: (wrong-type-argument buffer-live-p #<killed buffer>) buffer-modified-p(#<killed buffer>) shadow-save-todo-file() save-buffers-kill-emacs(nil) call-interactively(save-buffers-kill-emacs) and I have to kill the process sorry, I know I've done something wrong to cause this, but I wonder if XEmacs could better handle the situation, or provide more info so I'd know the right thing to do, etc. -- John A. Turner, Senior Research Associate Blue Sky Studios, One South Rd, Harrison, NY 10528 http://www.blueskystudios.com/ (914) 825-8319