PA> You can't, customize only handles a subset of the things you would PA> want to customize. Symbol properties and specifiers aren't handled PA> (except though kludges) nor are something as basic ot an editor as key PA> bindings. And of course, a developer will want to add new PA> functionality, which is outside the scope of what customize _should_ PA> do. John> understood - that's what I meant by "near-minimal" and "all customization John> possible" - admittedly not the best wording, esp. the latter John> guess I meant "all customizable customization" or "all customize-enabled John> customization" or "all customization with a controlling legal authority" I have a fairly minimal base .emacs. When I decided to switch to customize many months ago, I tried to convert everything at that time to customize. If more things have customize interfaces now, then I haven't made that change yet. I also haven't migrated all of my hooks to customize yet. Ray