Tux.org, which is kindly hosting the xemacs.org domain, will be moving the hardware that serves our domain from 1pm to 5pm EDT on Wednesday, August 21 (ie, 4pm to 8pm UTC, August 21). We believe that we have the various network services (in particular MX and DNS) covered for the transition, but the primary webserver and FTP archive will be unavailable, and there will be delays in mail delivery. (Mail should not bounce, however.) Depending on the configuration of your DNS, there could be delays of several hours in updating the IPs, which are changing. (We've done our best to shorten such delays, but it's not entirely under our control.) CVS is hosted separately, and should continue to be available as usual. During this period, please use our mirrors such as www.us.xemacs.org and www.dk.xemacs.org. A full list of mirrors is available on our home page. I apologize for the late notice. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py