Jan Vroonhof writes: more info: calendar is too wide only if started from my .emacs, otherwise it fits... i'll try to look for string-width in patches' archive grazie

2. the first window/frame is sized 81x45 by the wm, then XEmacs puts the toolbar etc in it, without (apparently) modifying the pixel dimensions of the window, so that its measure in chars gets smaller! 3. the wm doesn't notice what happened (possibly the actual-pixel dimensions of the window didn't change, or what else?) and subsequently it lies on window's dims, in chars who's the culprit, my wm (gwm) that doesn't see the change, or XEmacs that doesn't signal that's manipulating the window? This happens with both fvwm2 and Window Maker; I don't think it's the wm's fault. If XEmacs wants a full-size window for the calendar (or the message buffer window, or whatever) it has to resize its top level window when it inserts the toolbar etc. It evidently doesn't do that. The wm knows nothing about the subwindows, and shouldn't. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ What are those two straight lines for? "Free software rules."