Les> I am just starting to work with 21.2b4, and i am having trouble Les> loading lisp from what used to be the /usr/lib/xemacs/site-lisp Les> directory (and subdirs). Les> as i understand it, there is now an early late and last lisp Les> hierarchy. so i moved /usr/lib/xemacs/site-lisp to Les> /usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages This is not the way to go---site-lisp and site-packages are different beasts. site-packages is a package hierarchy. (Read about their layout in the texinfo documentation.) To get site-lisp back, specify --with-site-lisp (I think) from configure. At the very least, you need to move /usr/lib/xemacs/site-lisp to /usr/lib/xemacs/site-packages/lisp ^^^^^ -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla