Erik> On 23 Jun 99, Mathias Trucks <trucks(a)physik.tu-berlin.de&gt; Erik> wrote: Erik> Is this a bug that anybody is working on? It's really Erik> bugging the heck out of me. Yes and no. There are two problems. The first problem is that XEmacs is moving to the use of "Custom" as the primary interface to face usage. Now, Custom creates a whole set of its own data structures to work with faces and fonts. XEmacs has already its own---they're called specifiers---but specifiers are low level, not portable to FSF Emacs, and somewhat specific to the X11 font model. Unfortunately all these factors vastly increase the complexity of keeping the whole shebang consistent. These bugs appear, disappear, and reappear regularly for non-ISO-8859 fonts. I'm, ah, grimly satisfied to see that Latin-X users are suffering, too, for once. They will go away slowly, I would guess. What you're seeing, though, is a symptom of the fact that people (in particular Jan Vroonhof) are working on the problem. The second problem is that X servers regularly lie about what fonts you are getting. The diatribes (jwz's?) in the X font-handling code are quite amusing, as long as you currently have a legible screen in front of you. The logic used to handle these problems is arcane and fragile. Nobody is currently working on this AFAIK although several people have made noises about a "new font model". -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 __________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________ What are those two straight lines for? "Free software rules."