Fabrice> I'm a bit lost. I would like to get the latest cvs Fabrice> code. Should I update against no tag (to get the trunk, Fabrice> developpement code) or against r21-2-47 ? Or is it the Fabrice> same ? If you have already checked out xemacs, you should use `cvs update -A' along with your other favorite cvs and update flags. If you are doing a fresh checkout, simply do not use any -r flag with `cvs checkout'. This gives you the trunk == development code. r21-2-47 is definitely not on the trunk. It is one the release-21-4 branch. This code is now being maintained for stability, not features. (In some sense both are "the latest code", but they have different purposes. You probably mean the trunk.) The next beta on the trunk will be r21-5-0. (or r21-5-1, but I think Martin is a zero-based kind of guy.) Neither of these exists yet AFAIK. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

Michael> On Sun, 15 Apr 2001 17:43:03 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" Michael> <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp&gt; said: Michael> Well, I thought that was the case, too, after reading the Michael> note about the cvs changes. So I did an update -A ... and Michael> got 21.2.47. Then I set -r r21-2-latest-beta and got Michael> 21.2.48. Given that, either I have screwed up my commit, or CVS has an undocumented feature intended to make it look like Michael screwed up The Great Trunk Move, or (least likely ;) Michael screwed up. I don't see what, yet, but I'll fix it as soon as possible. Thanks for catching this. Note that -r r21-2-latest-beta _should_ be on the *21.4* prerelease branch and give identical results to -r r21-2-47. This (r21-2* tags on the 21.4 branch) is admin screwage due to me not really seeing how else to do it. Michael, I owe you big for catching this, there is potential for weeks of FAQ fallout if we release in this state. - University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

Michael> On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:09:56 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" Michael> <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp&gt; said: Michael> Gee, *I* would have assumed that was the most likely Michael> case, myself ... Oh, the "Michael" accused of screwing up is "Sperber", who executed The Great Trunk Move. You were "just following orders", and are unlikely to be convicted of screwing up anything (but stay away from the Hague, just to be safe ;). By the way, you wouldn't happen to be able to tell me offhand what the codenames for 21.2.47 and 21.2.48 were (if you can't, I _must_ test the checkouts myself anyway, so I'll know soon enough)? -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

Michael> On Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:31:11 +0900, "Stephen J. Turnbull" Michael> <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp&gt; said: Michael> I was one off on the version numbers. 21.2.46 is Urania Michael> (which I still get right now with update -A) and 21.2.47, Michael> which I get now with update -r r21-2-latest-beta, is Michael> Zephir. Ah, ah, aaaaah. Much better. _Don't_ scare me like that! :-) So it _was_ Michael Harnois, after all (and a typo at that). :-þ There have been _no_ 21.5 releases, therefore the trunk's version is the same as it was at the branch point, which was 21.2.46 "Urania", and that's what you should (and did) get. Until somebody (probably Martin) releases a 21.5 beta, that's what you'll see on the trunk. I believe the delay in releasing a 21.5 beta is due to lack of code names. :-) The 21.2 beta series is now 21.4 prereleases, so 21.2.47 Zephir is the correct result of update -r r21-2-latest-beta. OK, here's what I'm going to do: I'm going to initialize r21-5-latest-beta to Urania. Even if this isn't the "absolutely" correct thing to do, it's pretty close, and any infelicity will be corrected as soon as a real 21.5 beta is released. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."