Re: XEmacs at a crossroads

Andrés Ramírez writes: Well, Lucid basically was out of business 20 years ago. The version we have in XEmacs has been maintained and upgraded over the years (eg, to add tabs, progress bars, and generic "native" widgets), and I am sure it has diverged substantially from the version GNU Emacs uses. I don't know how much they've improved their version but I know they haven't added the additional widget support we have. I don't know; maybe the record is in their repo history. The rest of Lucid Emacs was FSF-assigned, but curiously enough, this is the only part of Lucid Emacs that was not assigned to the FSF (it was used in other parts of the Lucid Energize suite, so they wouldn't let it go, I guess). Even more curiously, RMS let it in; I don't know who owns those copyrights now. (Maybe Richard Gabriel? yes, Richard "Worse Is Better" Gabriel.) In 2000, the logic was, Windows, MSFT is no help and you gotta buy a compiler, OK, we'll provide an installer. Otherwise, all the distros have it in their packages. It doesn't get quicker than that. After that, we lost manpower and become ever more dependent on the distros though we still Hard to believe it's 25 years old, isn't it? The only problem I have with Lucid is that it's full of Lisp idioms ... but it's not part of Emacs Lisp, it's a whole extra layer of API. _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta