APA> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article APA> that has been posted to comp.emacs.xemacs as well. David> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, David> not to your local site managers!! David> Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have David> translators to read other languages for them. David> In XEmacs 21.4 (patch 3) "Academic Rigor" [Lucid] (i686-pc-cygwin) of Thu Jun 14 2001 on WONDARK David> configured using `configure --prefix=/usr' David> Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug David> and the precise symptoms of the bug: David> I'm in a text buffer. I execute "set-mark", then do C-u David> "shell-command-on-region", and type "date" at the prompt. David> Before I do this, I have task manager running. APA> Hi David, using (emacs-version) APA> "XEmacs 21.5 (beta2) \"artichoke\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Tue Jul APA> 31 2001 on D5DC120J" APA> I get APA> The current date is: Sat 08/11/2001 APA> Enter the new date: (mm-dd-yy) APA> inserted at mark, when I do as you describe. APA> This happens instantaneously. APA> Please upgrade your net-utils package via APA> Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> xemacs.org APA> Options -> Manage Packages -> Update Package Index APA> Options -> Manage Packages -> List & Install APA> so that your bug reports will get sent to xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org, APA> where more XEmacs developers hang out. Will do. I thought there might be an issue with that, but I couldn't remember what the better address was, or how to get it quickly (I browsed through a couple of places I thought would have it, before I sent the note). The output you get from "date" makes me think you're not executing the cygwin "date", which may be a factor. Another poster asked me what version of Cygwin I have. I updated "recently", probably several weeks ago. The DLL version is 1.3.2. -- =================================================================== David M. Karr ; Best Consulting dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004)

David> Another poster asked me what version of Cygwin I have. I David> updated "recently", probably several weeks ago. The DLL David> version is 1.3.2. APA> C-u M-! uname -a APA> will insert your cygwin information in the current buffer. APA> I do have cygwin installed, and it is ... APA> CYGWIN_NT-5.0 D5DC120J 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 unknown Interestingly, after I restarted my XEmacs, which had been running for quite a while, I don't see this issue. I was able to insert both of the following lines using "shell-command-on-region", with almost no delay. CYGWIN_NT-5.0 WONDARK 1.3.2(0.39/3/2) 2001-05-20 23:28 i686 unknown Sat Aug 11 12:16:17 2001 I'm still unable to update my packages, however. -- =================================================================== David M. Karr ; Best Consulting dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004)

APA> Please upgrade your net-utils package via APA> Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> xemacs.org APA> Options -> Manage Packages -> Update Package Index APA> Options -> Manage Packages -> List & Install APA> so that your bug reports will get sent to APA> xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org, where more XEmacs developers hang APA> out. David> This is slightly off-topic, but my menu path to get to David> those options is slightly different, and I can't get it to David> work. Perhaps there is a transient network problem. When David> I execute "List & Install" after the first two, I get the David> following: David> Signaling: (error "Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable") David> signal(error ("Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable")) Odd, I was able to update the index just now. Steve, what do you make of this? Any permission problems? David> This is odd, because the "Update Package Index" operation David> completed, apparently successfully. It brought up a "File David> Save" dialog, pointing to the "etc" directory, and I OKed David> that. I also just tried doing a manual ftp of that file, David> and it also worked fine. Hmmh, would you have the details still? Perhaps you can find the specific paths involved via M-x show-message-log Here is my transaction: Generating summary...done Love Big Brother Opening FTP connection to ftp.xemacs.org... Logging in as user anonymous... Logging in as user anonymous...done Getting pwd... Getting pwd...done CWD'ing to /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/... CWD'ing to /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...done Listing /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/... Listing /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...done <lines deleted by Adrian> Got 90 package-get database entries Updated package-get database Wrote c:\Users\AichnerAd\.xemacs\package-index.LATEST.pgp David> My menu path is "Tools -> Packages -> (the same)". I David> assume this is because of an XEmacs version difference David> (21.4.3 here). Yes, I keep forgetting the menu changed. Also, saving under ~\.xemacs\package-index.LATEST.pgp may be new. You could also try a site other than xemacs.org. Try one of the mirrors in the country of your ISP. Hope this helps, Adrian David> -- David> =================================================================== David> David M. Karr ; Best Consulting David> dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004) -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

David, what's the version of EFS you have installed? Consider upgrading to Latest Installed Package name Vers. Vers. Description =============================================================================== <lines deleted by Adrian> efs 1.26 1.26 Treat files on remote systems the same as local files. If you're a couple of revs behind. Do is as suggested under 7. in http://www.xemacs.org/Install/index.html David> This is odd, because the "Update Package Index" operation David> completed, apparently successfully. It brought up a "File David> Save" dialog, pointing to the "etc" directory, and I OKed David> that. I also just tried doing a manual ftp of that file, David> and it also worked fine. APA> Hmmh, would you have the details still? APA> Perhaps you can find the specific paths involved via APA> M-x show-message-log David> Here is the piece from the message log from executing "List & Install": David> ------------------ David> Verifying... David> Got 82 package-get database entries David> Updated package-get database David> Entering debugger... Did you get a backtrace you could send us? David> ------------------ APA> Here is my transaction: APA> Generating summary...done APA> Love Big Brother APA> Opening FTP connection to ftp.xemacs.org... APA> Logging in as user anonymous... APA> Logging in as user anonymous...done APA> Getting pwd... APA> Getting pwd...done APA> CWD'ing to /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/... APA> CWD'ing to /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...done APA> Listing /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/... APA> Listing /anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/...done APA> <lines deleted by Adrian> APA> Got 90 package-get database entries APA> Updated package-get database APA> Wrote c:\Users\AichnerAd\.xemacs\package-index.LATEST.pgp David> I assume I could get similar information from the "*ftp David> anonymous(a)ftp.xemacs.org*&quot; buffer. The contents of that follow. There seems David> to be something funky going on there. David> -------------------------- David> open ftp.xemacs.org ftp> Connected to xemacs.org. David> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre10 Server (Xemacs FTP Archives) [207.96.122.9] David> quote user "anonymous" ftp> ftp> 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. ftp> ftp> quote pass Turtle Power! David> 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. ftp> ftp> hash David> Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/hash mark). ftp> ftp> quote pwd David> 257 "/" is current directory. ftp> ftp> quote syst David> 215 UNIX Type: L8 ftp> ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/ David> 550 /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/: Not a directory ftp> ftp> quote site idle David> 500 'SITE IDLE' not understood. ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/ ftp> 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ftp> ls "-al" /tmp/dmkarr/efsbjAs_g David> 200 PORT command successful. David> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. David> 226 Transfer complete. ftp> ftp> David> -------------------------- David> My menu path is "Tools -> Packages -> (the same)". I David> assume this is because of an XEmacs version difference David> (21.4.3 here). APA> Yes, I keep forgetting the menu changed. APA> Also, saving under ~\.xemacs\package-index.LATEST.pgp may be new. David> What do you mean by this? When I do it, it prompts me to David> save in the "etc" subdirectory of the XEmacs installation. David> Do you mean I should try saving it in $HOME/.xemacs David> instead? Nah, just let us know where XEmacs wants to put the file exactly. Is it something like .../xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ ? APA> You could also try a site other than xemacs.org. APA> Try one of the mirrors in the country of your ISP. David> I tried uiuc, and I can't even complete "Update Package Index". That fails David> with: David> Signaling: (ftp-error "FTP Error: CWD 550 /pub/packages/xemacs/packages/: No such file or directory. failed: ") David> signal(ftp-error ("FTP Error: CWD 550 /pub/packages/xemacs/packages/: No such file or directory. failed: ")) APA> Hope this helps, APA> Adrian David> I'm sure it will, eventually :) . David> -- David> =================================================================== David> David M. Karr ; Best Consulting David> dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004) -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

APA> David, APA> what's the version of EFS you have installed? Hi again, I wanted the information about efs, that you get from M-x pui-list-packages Here is my efs-version "1.20pre2/1.63" David> "1.19/1.63" APA> Consider upgrading to APA> Latest Installed APA> Package name Vers. Vers. Description APA> =============================================================================== APA> <lines deleted by Adrian> APA> efs 1.26 1.26 Treat files on remote systems the same as local files. APA> If you're a couple of revs behind. APA> Do is as suggested under 7. in APA> http://www.xemacs.org/Install/index.html David> So do you mean that I can download/install JUST the efs David> package, or do I have to download/install anything else? Just EFS, in the hope that you will be able to Update Package Index with the newer version of EFS. David> I'm not certain, combining what you said with what that David> page says. David> This is odd, because the "Update Package Index" operation David> completed, apparently successfully. It brought up a "File David> Save" dialog, pointing to the "etc" directory, and I OKed David> that. I also just tried doing a manual ftp of that file, David> and it also worked fine. APA> Hmmh, would you have the details still? APA> Perhaps you can find the specific paths involved via APA> M-x show-message-log David> Here is the piece from the message log from executing "List & Install": David> ------------------ David> Verifying... David> Got 82 package-get database entries David> Updated package-get database David> Entering debugger... APA> Did you get a backtrace you could send us? David> Signaling: (error "Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable") David> signal(error ("Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable")) David> cerror("Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> apply(cerror "Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> error("Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> package-get-update-base(nil t) David> package-get-require-base(t) David> #<compiled-function nil "...(137)" [pui-info-buffer pui-menu buffer-read-only sep-string start outbuf package-get-require-base t get-buffer-create "===============================================================================\n" nil message "Creating package list ..." sit-for 0 buffer-disable-undo erase-buffer kill-all-local-variables use-local-map list-packages-mode "Packages" "\nWarning: No download sites specified. Package index may be out of date.\n If you intend to install packages, specify download sites first.\n\n" " Latest Installed\n Package name Vers. Vers. Description\n" " Latest\n Package name Vers. Description\n" mapcar #<compiled-function ... "...(204)" ... 10> sort copy-sequence #<compiled-function ... "...(10)" ... 3> documentation set-buffer-modified-p pop-to-buffer delete-other-windows featurep menubar set-buffer-menubar add-submenu clear-message pui-display-keymap major-mode mode-name truncate-lines pack! David> age-get-remote pui-list-verbose package-get-base pui-selected-packages pui-deleted-packages current-menubar mode-popup-menu] 6 ("/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.3/lisp/package-ui.elc" . 13425) nil>() David> call-interactively(pui-list-packages) APA> Yes, I keep forgetting the menu changed. APA> Also, saving under ~\.xemacs\package-index.LATEST.pgp may be new. David> What do you mean by this? When I do it, it prompts me to David> save in the "etc" subdirectory of the XEmacs installation. David> Do you mean I should try saving it in $HOME/.xemacs David> instead? APA> Nah, just let us know where XEmacs wants to put the file exactly. APA> Is it something like APA> .../xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/ APA> ? David> c:/cygwin/lib/xemacs-21.4.3/etc Yes, this makes sense. Forget me ever saying it should be under .../xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/. David> -- David> =================================================================== David> David M. Karr ; Best Consulting David> dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004) -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

>>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner <Adrian.Aichner(a)t-online.de&gt; writes: APA> David, APA> what's the version of EFS you have installed? APA> Consider upgrading to APA> Latest Installed APA> Package name Vers. Vers. Description APA> =============================================================================== APA> <lines deleted by Adrian> APA> efs 1.26 1.26 Treat files on remote systems the same as local files. APA> If you're a couple of revs behind. APA> Do is as suggested under 7. in APA> http://www.xemacs.org/Install/index.html David> Well, I went ahead and just upgraded to 21.4.4, following the instructions on David> the web site. I got to "List & Install", and still got a backtrace, which David> follows. David> Versions: David> emacs-version: "21.4 (patch 4) \"Artificial Intelligence\" XEmacs Lucid" David> efs-version: "1.20pre2/1.63" OK, that's what I have. David, please give me the output of (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.5 (beta2) \"artichoke\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Tue Jul 31 2001 on D5DC120J" is what I get. I compared your *ftp ...* buffer to mine and your's contains excessive ftp> prompts which I don't have. Which ftp do you use? I had to move the cygwn ftp.exe out of the way! I am using (which ftp): /cygdrive/c/WINNT/SYSTEM32/ftp Under c:\cygwin\bin I just renamed ftp.exe to ftp.exe.orig. David> It seems a little odd that the tar file is named David> "efs-1.26-pkg.tar.gz", but it contained version 1.20pre2. David> What does the "1.63" refer to? EFS is externally maintained. These numners are out of XEmacs's control. For the XEmacs project, it's most useful to know the package number you installed: efs-1.26-pkg.tar.gz. David> ------------------------------ David> Signaling: (error "Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable") David> signal(error ("Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable")) David> cerror("Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> apply(cerror "Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> error("Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> package-get-update-base(nil t) David> package-get-require-base(t) David> #<compiled-function nil "...(137)" [pui-info-buffer pui-menu buffer-read-only sep-string start outbuf package-get-require-base t get-buffer-create "===============================================================================\n" nil message "Creating package list ..." sit-for 0 buffer-disable-undo erase-buffer kill-all-local-variables use-local-map list-packages-mode "Packages" "\nWarning: No download sites specified. Package index may be out of date.\n If you intend to install packages, specify download sites first.\n\n" " Latest Installed\n Package name Vers. Vers. Description\n" " Latest\n Package name Vers. Description\n" mapcar #<compiled-function ... "...(204)" ... 10> sort copy-sequence #<compiled-function ... "...(10)" ... 3> documentation set-buffer-modified-p pop-to-buffer delete-other-windows featurep menubar set-buffer-menubar add-submenu clear-message pui-display-keymap major-mode mode-name truncate-lines pack! David> age-get-remote pui-list-verbose package-get-base pui-selected-packages pui-deleted-packages current-menubar mode-popup-menu] 6 ("/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.4/lisp/package-ui.elc" . 13436) nil>() David> call-interactively(pui-list-packages) David> ------------------------------ David> The ftp buffer contents follows. It seems like it thinks that David> "package-index.LATEST.pgp" is a directory. This is OK. It's some kind of compatibility test to try cd-ing to the file. David, with a proper download site selected, try this: M-x package-get-update-base Best regards, Adrian David> -------------------------------- David> open ftp.xemacs.org David> Connected to xemacs.org. David> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre10 Server (Xemacs FTP Archives) [207.96.122.9] David> quote user "anonymous" ftp> ftp> 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. ftp> ftp> quote pass Turtle Power! David> 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. ftp> hash ftp> Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/hash mark). ftp> ftp> quote pwd David> 257 "/" is current directory. ftp> ftp> quote syst David> 215 UNIX Type: L8 ftp> ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/ David> 550 /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/: Not a directory ftp> ftp> quote site idle David> 500 'SITE IDLE' not understood. ftp> ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/ David> 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ftp> ls "-al" /tmp/dmkarr/efsbgA6ob David> 200 PORT command successful. David> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. David> 226 Transfer complete. ftp> ftp> David> -------------------------------- David> -- David> =================================================================== David> David M. Karr ; Best Consulting David> dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004) -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

Hmmh, I hope, Steve, our package patch tender and package release engineer will have some ideas about this "not readable" problem. I'm out of ideas for now. Adrian APA> David, please give me the output of (emacs-version) APA> "XEmacs 21.5 (beta2) \"artichoke\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Tue Jul APA> 31 2001 on D5DC120J" APA> is what I get. David> I'll try this again. I somehow managed to get XEmacs killed while writing this David> note the first time. David> "21.4 (patch 4) \"Artificial Intelligence\" XEmacs Lucid" APA> I compared your *ftp ...* buffer to mine and your's contains excessive ftp> APA> prompts which I don't have. APA> Which ftp do you use? David> The "ftp" from /usr/bin is in the path before the Windows version. APA> I had to move the cygwn ftp.exe out of the way! APA> I am using (which ftp): APA> /cygdrive/c/WINNT/SYSTEM32/ftp APA> Under c:\cygwin\bin I just renamed ftp.exe to ftp.exe.orig. David> I tried doing this, but if possible, it works even worse than the Cygwin David> version. When I try to do something with it, I get a dialog box that says David> something like "ftp anonymous(a)ftp.xemacs.org not a pty, kill?". Do I have to David> restart XEmacs after moving it out of the way? I hope that moving Cygwin's out David> of the way isn't a permanent solution. APA> David, with a proper download site selected, try this: APA> M-x package-get-update-base David> This prompts me with: David> Load package-get database: David> /ftp.xemacs.org:pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp David> When I press return, I get the stack trace: David> Signaling: (error "Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable") David> signal(error ("Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable")) David> cerror("Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> apply(cerror "Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> error("Package-get database file `%s' not readable" "/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> #<compiled-function (&optional db-file force-current) "...(62)" [force-current buf db-file expand-file-name package-get-locate-index-file file-exists-p error "Package-get database file `%s' does not exist" file-readable-p "Package-get database file `%s' not readable" get-buffer-create "*package database*" (...) erase-buffer insert-file-contents-literally package-get-update-base-from-buffer file-remote-p package-get-maybe-save-index] 3 ("/usr/lib/xemacs-21.4.4/lisp/package-get.elc" . 10716) (let (...) (list ...))>("/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp") David> call-interactively(package-get-update-base) David> command-execute(package-get-update-base t) David> execute-extended-command(nil) David> call-interactively(execute-extended-command) David> -- David> =================================================================== David> David M. Karr ; Best Consulting David> dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004) -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

|--==> "DMK" == David M Karr <dmkarr(a)earthlink.net&gt; writes: APA> Perhaps you can find the specific paths involved via APA> M-x show-message-log DMK> Here is the piece from the message log from executing "List & Install": DMK> ------------------ DMK> Verifying... DMK> Got 82 package-get database entries DMK> Updated package-get database DMK> Entering debugger... DMK> ------------------ I don't see anything wrong here. DMK> There seems to be something funky going on there. DMK> -------------------------- DMK> open ftp.xemacs.org ftp> Connected to xemacs.org. DMK> 220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre10 Server (Xemacs FTP Archives) [207.96.122.9] DMK> quote user "anonymous" ftp> ftp> 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. ftp> ftp> quote pass Turtle Power! DMK> 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. ftp> ftp> hash DMK> Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/hash mark). ftp> ftp> quote pwd DMK> 257 "/" is current directory. ftp> ftp> quote syst DMK> 215 UNIX Type: L8 ftp> ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/ DMK> 550 /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/: Not a directory ftp> ftp> quote site idle DMK> 500 'SITE IDLE' not understood. ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/ ftp> 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ftp> ls "-al" /tmp/dmkarr/efsbjAs_g DMK> 200 PORT command successful. DMK> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list. DMK> 226 Transfer complete. ftp> ftp> DMK> -------------------------- Everything looks normal here too. -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------&lt;youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt;---|

David> Signaling: (error "Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable") David> signal(error ("Package-get database file `/anonymous＠ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp' not readable")) APA> Odd, I was able to update the index just now. APA> Steve, what do you make of this? SY> Odd indeed. Try: SY> (setq efs-use-passive-mode t) I'm afraid this had no effect. Following this is my current "ftp" buffer. Note that I'm still using Cygwin "ftp". There had been some mention of moving that out of the way, but I found that demonstrated even more bizarre behavior. It presented dialogs like &quot;ftp(a)ftp.xemacs.org is not a pty? kill?". I eventually ^g-ed it when it seemed to be doing nothing. However, when I set up to set "efs-use-passive-mode" in my "custom.el", I thought to look in my init.el to see if I was doing anything efs-related. I noticed that I was setting the following two variables: (setq efs-disable-netrc-security-check t) (setq efs-treat-crlf-as-nl t) When I commented these out and restarted, I was actually able to complete the "Update Package Index" operation. I wasn't able to do it before. It said "Updated package-get database" in the message area. However, doing either "List and Install" or "Update Installed Packages" fails with the same error as usual. I also got prompted about the permissions on my $HOME/.netrc, which is understandable. ------------------ open ftp.xemacs.org Connected to xemacs.org. 220 ProFTPD 1.2.0pre10 Server (Xemacs FTP Archives) [207.96.122.9] quote user "anonymous" ftp> ftp> 331 Anonymous login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password. ftp> ftp> quote pass Turtle Power! 230 Anonymous access granted, restrictions apply. ftp> ftp> hash Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/hash mark). ftp> ftp> passive Passive mode on. ftp> ftp> quote pwd 257 "/" is current directory. ftp> ftp> quote syst 215 UNIX Type: L8 ftp> ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/ 550 /pub/xemacs/packages/package-index.LATEST.pgp/: Not a directory ftp> ftp> quote site idle 500 'SITE IDLE' not understood. ftp> ftp> quote cwd /pub/xemacs/packages/ 250 CWD command successful. ftp> ftp> ls "-al" /tmp/dmkarr/efsbYAmrk 227 Entering Passive Mode (207,96,122,9,203,88). 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for file list 226 Transfer complete. ftp> ftp> ------------------ -- =================================================================== David M. Karr ; Best Consulting dmkarr(a)earthlink.net ; Java/Unix/XML/C++/X ; BrainBench CJ12P (#12004)

APA> If that does not help, I'd suggest you try to get ftp from APA> ftp.xemacs.org working outside of XEmacs. Well, the EFS log actually looks fine. You still might want to do an M-x efs-report-bug RET, so we know exactly what you have. -- Cheers =8-} Mike Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

|--==> "DMK" == David M Karr <dmkarr(a)earthlink.net&gt; writes: SY> (setq efs-use-passive-mode t) DMK> I'm afraid this had no effect. Following this is my current "ftp" buffer. DMK> Note that I'm still using Cygwin "ftp". There had been some mention of moving DMK> that out of the way, but I found that demonstrated even more bizarre behavior. DMK> It presented dialogs like &quot;ftp(a)ftp.xemacs.org is not a pty? kill?". I DMK> eventually ^g-ed it when it seemed to be doing nothing. It's time to bring out the big guns :-) Please do 'M-x efs-report-bug' -- |---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor. | | It's a way of life. | |------------------------------------&lt;youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt;---|