jason(a)xemacs.org said: I don't recall seeing that particular message (it certainly wasn't a long thread!), but *I* find the lack of communication around our release plans confusing, and I'm supposed to be co-ordinating the 21.1 series! I've been assuming that 21.0 was not yet official, because: - the Splash screen still has a big red "BETA VERSION" stamped across it - --enable-debugging is still on by default - we still need a mini-how-to which says how to build from the minimal package set (or from SUMO). I would assume this would go along with whatever official announcement goes out to comp.emacs.xemacs (or did I miss that, too). - has there been a 21.1 branch created in the CVS archive? was there an announcement of that to xemacs-beta? Granted that the packaging system is still immature, but I think 21.0 is stable enough to merit binary kits, so I disagree with what Jason wrote here: Jason wrote: I believe the last communication I got from Steve (about 2 weeks ago) said 'please stand by', so I've been doing that. I'm hoping for some further discussion and clarification. - vin