3:01 p.m.
Hello.
The following XEmacs packages have just been released.
Updated or New Packages:
=======================
cc-mode-1.29-pkg.tar.gz
edit-utils-1.90-pkg.tar.gz
leim-1.19-pkg.tar.gz *** Mule ***
mail-lib-1.48-pkg.tar.gz
mh-e-1.15-pkg.tar.gz
pcl-cvs-1.64-pkg.tar.gz
prog-modes-1.63-pkg.tar.gz
ps-print-1.07-pkg.tar.gz
psgml-1.29-pkg.tar.gz
reftex-1.26-pkg.tar.gz
sieve-1.08-pkg.tar.gz
text-modes-1.51-pkg.tar.gz
xemacs-base-1.67-pkg.tar.gz
xemacs-devel-1.48-pkg.tar.gz
xslide-1.03-pkg.tar.gz
Detailed Changes:
================
cc-mode-1.29-pkg.tar.gz
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2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.29 released.
2002-08-01 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* cc-engine.el (c-beginning-of-member-init-list):
Apply patch from Martin Stjernholm submitted by Neal D. Becker,
Martin's comments: CC Mode 5.28 has a bug that causes it to
confuse < and > in such initialization lists with template
parentheses. The following patch corrects that.
2002-07-16 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* .cvsignore: Add generated .info* and .html files.
edit-utils-1.90-pkg.tar.gz
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2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.90 released.
2002-07-31 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* func-menu.el: Add JavaScript support, checkdoc'ify.
(fume-function-name-regexp-javascript): New.
(fume-function-name-regexp-alist): Use -regexp-javascript.
(fume-find-next-javascript-function-name): New.
(fume-find-function-name-method-alist): Use -javascript-function-name.
2002-07-24 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* setnu.el: Sync with author version 1.06.
leim-1.19-pkg.tar.gz
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2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.19 released.
2002-07-22 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* leim-list.el: Fix spelling of "finnish".
* quail/latin-post.el: Ditto.
mail-lib-1.48-pkg.tar.gz
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2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.48 released.
2002-07-26 Simon Josefsson <jas(a)extundo.com>
* browse-url.el (browse-url-netscape-send): Doc fix.
(comments): Added ";; XEmacs" markers were we differ from Emacs.
2002-06-21 Richard M. Stallman <rms(a)gnu.org>
* net/browse-url.el (browse-url-at-mouse): Don't pass an arg
to browse-url-at-point.
2002-07-23 John Paul Wallington <jpw(a)shootybangbang.com>
* browse-url.el (browse-url-lynx-input-attempts): Use defcustom.
(browse-url-lynx-input-delay): Add custom type and group.
2002-07-08 Simon Josefsson <jas(a)extundo.com>
* mail-extr.el (mail-extr-all-top-level-domains): Update names.
mh-e-1.15-pkg.tar.gz
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2002-08-05 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.15 released.
2002-08-02 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (AUTHOR_VERSION): Set to 5.0.2.
2002-07-16 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* .cvsignore: Add generated .info* and .html files.
pcl-cvs-1.64-pkg.tar.gz
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2002-07-30 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.64 released.
2002-07-16 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* .cvsignore: Add generated .info* and .html files.
2002-06-21 Christian Schmitt <Christian.Schmitt(a)dresdner-bank.com>
* pcl-cvs-defs.el (cvs-version): Call CVS using `cvs-program'.
prog-modes-1.63-pkg.tar.gz
--------------------------
2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.63 released.
2002-08-02 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org>
* p4.el (p4-prev-toggle-fkn): Autoload it.
2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.62 released.
2002-08-01 Peter Osterlund <petero2(a)telia.com>
* p4.el: Include all stable features from the sourceforge cvs tree
(version 10.1 + some more).
* p4.el (p4-help-text): Disable automatic function help text
generation because a p4 server may not be accessible during byte
compilation.
2002-08-01 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* php-mode.el (php-mode): Workaround for problem with autoload
cookies and define-derived-mode.
2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.61 released.
2002-07-23 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* rpm-spec-mode.el: Syntax highlighting tweaks.
(rpm-spec-mode): Call (rpm-update-mode-name)
on startup so modeline starts with correct status.
2002-07-15 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* ksh-mode.el: It's XEmacs, not Xemacs.
* php-mode.el: Ditto.
* php-mode.el (php-mode): Ditto.
* php-mode.el (php-font-lock-syntactic-keywords): Ditto.
ps-print-1.07-pkg.tar.gz
------------------------
2002-08-05 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.07 released.
2002-08-03 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile: Set DATA_FILES before including XEmacs.rules.
2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.06 released.
2002-07-30 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* ps-mule.el: Get rid of coding-system aliases.
(ps-mule-string-ascii): Use real XEmacs coding-system names.
(ps-mule-font-info-database-latin): Ditto.
(ps-mule-font-info-database-bdf): Ditto.
(ps-mule-encode-header-string): Ditto.
2002-07-30 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.05 released.
2002-07-22 Daiki Ueno <daiki(a)xemacs.org>
* ps-mule.el: Add aliases for iso-latin-* coding systems.
2002-06-10 Vin Shelton <acs(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile: Include XEmacs.rules before testing BUILD_WITHOUT_MULE
2002-06-10 Mike Fabian <mfabian(a)suse.de>
* ps-mule.el (ps-mule-string-encoding): use find-coding-system
for XEmacs where coding-system-p is used in Emacs.
* ps-mule.el (ps-mule-begin-job): assume that
enable-multibyte-character is always t because this variable
exists only for compatibility with Emacs and does not change
the behaviour of XEmacs.
* ps-mule.el: define a few aliases for coding systems which
have different names in Emacs.
* ps-mule.el (ps-mule-font-info-database-ps):
use ps-mule-encode-8bit instead of ps-mule-encode-7bit for the
Korean Munhwa-Bold-KSC-EUC-H font.
* ps-mule.el (ps-mule-font-info-database-bdf):
prefer gulim24.bdf over hanglm24.bdf (looks better).
use ps-mule-encode-8bit instead of ps-mule-encode-7bit for the
chinese-sisheng bdf fonts.
psgml-1.29-pkg.tar.gz
---------------------
2002-08-05 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.29 released.
2002-08-05 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (REQUIRES): Add eterm, fsf-compat and sh-script.
(AUTHOR_VERSION): Nit, set to 1.2.2 instead of 1.22...
2002-07-16 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* .cvsignore: Add generated .info* and .html files.
reftex-1.26-pkg.tar.gz
----------------------
2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.26 released.
2002-07-24 Carsten Dominik <dominik(a)science.uva.nl>
* Update to RefTeX 4.18.
2002-07-16 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* .cvsignore: Add generated .info* and .html files.
2002-07-14 Nix <nix(a)esperi.demon.co.uk>
* reftex-index.el (mark-active): Removed.
* reftex-index.el (zmacs-regions): Likewise.
* reftex-index.el (transient-mark-mode): Likewise.
sieve-1.08-pkg.tar.gz
---------------------
2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.08 released.
2002-07-27 Simon Josefsson <jas(a)extundo.com>
* sieve-manage.el (sieve-manage-deletescript): New function.
* sieve.el (sieve-manage-mode-map): Fix down-mouse-2 and down-mouse-3.
(sieve-manage-mode): Fix menubar.
(sieve-activate): Change some messages.
(sieve-deactivate-all): New function.
(sieve-deactivate): New alias.
(sieve-remove): New function.
(sieve-help): Fix help.
All suggested by Ned Ludd.
text-modes-1.51-pkg.tar.gz
--------------------------
2002-08-05 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.51 released.
2002-08-03 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* po-mode.el: Sync with gettext 0.11.4. No autoloads
because of previously reported problems with keybindings.
* po-compat.el: New, from gettext 0.11.4.
* Makefile (ELCS): Add po-compat.elc.
* package-info.in (provides): Add po-compat.
2002-08-03 Sat Jari Aalto <jari.aalto(a)poboxes.com>
* folding.el:
New feature - added font-lock support.
Removed LCD entry, because OHIO archive hasn't
been functional in years. Ducumentation typos cleaned a bit.
(folding-mode): Added call to`folding-font-lock-support'
(folding-font-lock-keywords): New function.
(folding-font-lock-support-instantiate): New function.
(folding-font-lock-support): New function.
(folding-package-url-location): Added note that folding is
included in XEmacs.
(folding-font-lock-begin-mark): New user variable.
(folding-font-lock-end-mark): New user variable..
2002-08-02 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* xrdb-mode.el: Sync with author version 2.27.
2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.50 released.
2002-08-01 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* flyspell.el: Sync with author version 1.6h, with a change:
(flyspell-mouse-map): Use C-; instead of C-/ for
flyspell-auto-correct-previous-word (C-/ is bound to undo).
2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.49 released.
2002-07-26 Jari Aalto <jari.aalto(a)poboxes.com>
* folding.el (folding-install): The unistall choice was
missing. Added.
(folding-uninstall-hooks): added
`turn-off-folding-mode'
(folding-mode): Moved ´folding-keep-hooked' to the
point where folding is turned on. It should not be called
if folding is turned off.
2002-07-15 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* folding.el: It's XEmacs, not Xemacs.
xemacs-base-1.67-pkg.tar.gz
---------------------------
2002-08-05 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.67 released.
2002-08-04 Simon Josefsson <jas(a)extundo.com>
* passwd.el (read-passwd): Redisplay.
xemacs-devel-1.48-pkg.tar.gz
----------------------------
2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.48 released.
2002-07-18 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* checkdoc.el (checkdoc-generate-compile-warnings-flag): Typo
fixing sync with GNU Emacs.
* checkdoc.el (checkdoc): Ditto (plus some re-wording).
* checkdoc.el (checkdoc-display-status-buffer): Ditto.
* checkdoc.el (checkdoc-interactive-loop): Ditto.
* checkdoc.el (checkdoc-next-message-error): Ditto.
* checkdoc.el (checkdoc-message-text-engine): Ditto.
xslide-1.03-pkg.tar.gz
----------------------
2002-07-31 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.03 released.
2002-07-25 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* xslide.el: Docstring nit fixes.
(xsl-electric-slash): Don't match <?xml, <!DOCTYPE or <!ENTITY.
2002-05-09 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.02 released.
2002-05-07 Ville Skyttä <ville.skytta(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (PRELOADS): Cleanup, remove ./'s.
Installing These:
================
Manually:
--------
1) Download the packages that you want to install from: [1]
/ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages/
2) Unpack them to: [2]
/usr/local/lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/
3) Re-start XEmacs.
Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.[245].x):
----------------------------------------------
1) Tools -> Packages -> Add Download Site -> choose site
2) Tools -> Packages -> List and Install
3) Select the packages you wish to install (there are brief
instructions at the bottom of the packages buffer).
4) Packages -> Install/Remove Selected
5) Re-start XEmacs.
Using XEmacs Package Tools (XEmacs 21.1.14):
-------------------------------------------
1) Options -> Manage Packages -> Add Download Site -> choose site
2) Options -> Manage Packages -> List and Install
3 - 5) As per XEmacs 21.[245].x.
Footnotes:
[1] Or from a mirror near you.
[2] Note: Mule packages should be installed into:
/usr/local/lib/xemacs/mule-packages/
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FreeBSD Devote | for they are subtle and quick to anger.
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Apache God | <mailto:rendhalver＠xemacs.org> <GnuPG KeyID: AE51D190>
9:05 a.m.
Hi,
I can't use the key `C-x C-q' for the command `toggle-read-only'.
The key is re-mapped to the command `p4-toggle-read-only' by
prog-modes/auto-autoloads.elc but it isn't provided.
>>>> In <86k7mxpk9b.fsf(a)ulthwe.dyndns.org>
>>>> rendhalver(a)xemacs.org (Rendhalver [Peter Brown]) wrote:
prog-modes-1.63-pkg.tar.gz
--------------------------
2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
* Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.63 released.
2002-08-02 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org>
* p4.el (p4-prev-toggle-fkn): Autoload it.
--
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka(a)jpl.org>
5:45 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
Hello Peter, could you have a look at this? TIA...
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:05, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
I can't use the key `C-x C-q' for the command
`toggle-read-only'.
The key is re-mapped to the command `p4-toggle-read-only' by
prog-modes/auto-autoloads.elc but it isn't provided.
>>>>> In <86k7mxpk9b.fsf(a)ulthwe.dyndns.org>
>>>>> rendhalver(a)xemacs.org (Rendhalver [Peter Brown]) wrote:
> prog-modes-1.63-pkg.tar.gz
> --------------------------
> 2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
> * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.63 released.
> 2002-08-02 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org>
> * p4.el (p4-prev-toggle-fkn): Autoload it.
--
Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka(a)jpl.org>
--
\/ille Skyttä
ville.skytta at xemacs.org
6:09 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
>>>> "Ville" == Ville Skytt <Ville>
writes:
Ville> Hello Peter, could you have a look at this? TIA...
Ville> On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:05, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
yep will do
> I can't use the key `C-x C-q' for the command
`toggle-read-only'.
> The key is re-mapped to the command `p4-toggle-read-only' by
> prog-modes/auto-autoloads.elc but it isn't provided.
>
> >>>>> In <86k7mxpk9b.fsf(a)ulthwe.dyndns.org>
> >>>>> rendhalver(a)xemacs.org (Rendhalver [Peter Brown]) wrote:
>
> > prog-modes-1.63-pkg.tar.gz
> > --------------------------
> > 2002-08-02 Rendhalver [Peter Brown] <rendhalver(a)xemacs.org>
>
> > * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.63 released.
>
> > 2002-08-02 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org>
>
> > * p4.el (p4-prev-toggle-fkn): Autoload it.
> --
> Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka(a)jpl.org>
Ville> --
Ville> \/ille Skyttä
Ville> ville.skytta at xemacs.org
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Apache God | <mailto:rendhalver at xemacs.org> <GnuPG KeyID: AE51D190>
6:31 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 20:09, Rendhalver [Peter Brown] wrote:
Ville> Hello Peter, could you have a look at this? TIA...
Ville> On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:05, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
yep will do
Oops, by Peter I actually meant Peter Österlund, but I certainly won't
mind you looking at it... :)
--
\/ille Skyttä
ville.skytta at xemacs.org
7:19 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
>>>> "Ville" == Ville Skytt <Ville>
writes:
Ville> On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 20:09, Rendhalver [Peter Brown] wrote:
Ville> Hello Peter, could you have a look at this? TIA...
Ville> On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:05, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>
> yep will do
Ville> Oops, by Peter I actually meant Peter Österlund, but I certainly won't
Ville> mind you looking at it... :)
its cool dude
this is the exact reason i prefer being called rendhalver :)
it saves me being confused with everyone else
because there is only on of me
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8:11 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
rendhalver(a)xemacs.org (Rendhalver [Peter Brown]) writes:
this is the exact reason i prefer being called rendhalver :)
it saves me being confused with everyone else
because there is only on of me
This reminds me two a really nice stories: First you've got to know,
that Schmitt is one of the most common names in Germany and Peter is
very common two. My brother has the bad fortune that he's name is Peter
Schmitt...
One time he was in a really big club and there was an announcement that
Peter Schmitt should come to place X. When he arrived there were three
others already. (Together with two of them he partied the rest of the
night, the third had just become father)
An other time he was together with our neighbor (their cat is called
Peter, too) in the cellar, drinking a bottle of beer when our neighbor's
wife shouted "Armin, who is down there with you?". He answered "Oh,
it's
only Peter". She then screamed "Put him out immediately, you now he
always pisses and shits in the corners..."
--
One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
8:31 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
>>>> "Frank" == Frank Schmitt
<ich(a)Frank-Schmitt.net> writes:
Frank> rendhalver(a)xemacs.org (Rendhalver [Peter Brown]) writes:
> this is the exact reason i prefer being called rendhalver :)
> it saves me being confused with everyone else
> because there is only on of me
Frank> This reminds me two a really nice stories: First you've got to know,
Frank> that Schmitt is one of the most common names in Germany and Peter is
Frank> very common two. My brother has the bad fortune that he's name is Peter
Frank> Schmitt...
Frank> One time he was in a really big club and there was an announcement that
Frank> Peter Schmitt should come to place X. When he arrived there were three
Frank> others already. (Together with two of them he partied the rest of the
Frank> night, the third had just become father)
Frank> An other time he was together with our neighbor (their cat is called
Frank> Peter, too) in the cellar, drinking a bottle of beer when our
neighbor's
Frank> wife shouted "Armin, who is down there with you?". He answered
"Oh, it's
Frank> only Peter". She then screamed "Put him out immediately, you now
he
Frank> always pisses and shits in the corners..."
hehehe excellent story :)
thank you
i know WAY too many peter's and having a last name like brown doesnt
help either ;)
Frank> --
Frank> One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them,
Frank> One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind them
Frank> In the Land of Mordor where the Shadows lie.
mmmmmm mordor :)
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FreeBSD Devote | for they are subtle and quick to anger.
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5:56 a.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
|--==> "FS" == Frank Schmitt <ich(a)Frank-Schmitt.net> writes:
FS> An other time he was together with our neighbor (their cat is
FS> called Peter, too) in the cellar, drinking a bottle of beer
FS> when our neighbor's wife shouted "Armin, who is down there with
FS> you?". He answered "Oh, it's only Peter". She then screamed
FS> "Put him out immediately, you now he always pisses and shits in
FS> the corners..."
roflmao!
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|---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 10D5C9C5>---|
| XEmacs - It's not just an editor. |
| It's a way of life. |
|------------------------------------<youngs(a)xemacs.org>---|
8:44 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
On 15 Aug 2002, Ville Skyttä wrote:
Hello Peter, could you have a look at this? TIA...
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:05, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
> I can't use the key `C-x C-q' for the command `toggle-read-only'.
> The key is re-mapped to the command `p4-toggle-read-only' by
> prog-modes/auto-autoloads.elc but it isn't provided.
Marking p4-toggle-read-only for autoload seems to fix it. However, I
wonder why the substitute-key-definition is autoloaded in the first place:
;;;###autoload
(substitute-key-definition p4-prev-toggle-fkn 'p4-toggle-read-only
global-map)
Doing this means that p4.el will be autoloaded as soon as you type "C-x
C-q", which seems wasteful because the vast majority of users probably
don't use perforce/p4 anyway.
And it will not really help p4 users either, because p4.el adds an entry
to find-file-hooks. This means that for correct operation, p4.el would
have to be autoloaded as soon as a file is opened, which makes the whole
autoload idea rather pointless.
Maybe the right thing to do is to just remove the autoload from
substitute-key-definition and let users who want to use p4.el load it
manually.
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10:37 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 22:44, Peter Osterlund wrote:
On 15 Aug 2002, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> Hello Peter, could you have a look at this? TIA...
>
> On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 11:05, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:
>
> > I can't use the key `C-x C-q' for the command `toggle-read-only'.
> > The key is re-mapped to the command `p4-toggle-read-only' by
> > prog-modes/auto-autoloads.elc but it isn't provided.
Marking p4-toggle-read-only for autoload seems to fix it. However, I
wonder why the substitute-key-definition is autoloaded in the first place:
;;;###autoload
(substitute-key-definition p4-prev-toggle-fkn 'p4-toggle-read-only
global-map)
Yes, I'm wondering the same thing here...
Doing this means that p4.el will be autoloaded as soon as you type
"C-x
C-q", which seems wasteful because the vast majority of users probably
don't use perforce/p4 anyway.
And it will not really help p4 users either, because p4.el adds an entry
to find-file-hooks. This means that for correct operation, p4.el would
have to be autoloaded as soon as a file is opened, which makes the whole
autoload idea rather pointless.
Maybe the right thing to do is to just remove the autoload from
substitute-key-definition and let users who want to use p4.el load it
manually.
Yep. And the whole idea of messing around with global keymappings this
way seems somewhat scary to me, shouldn't it just be set in the buffer
local map where the p4 stuff is active (or did I miss something)?
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\/ille Skyttä
ville.skytta at xemacs.org
10:52 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
At 12:37 AM 8/16/2002 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote:
Yep. And the whole idea of messing around with global keymappings
this
way seems somewhat scary to me, shouldn't it just be set in the buffer
local map where the p4 stuff is active (or did I miss something)?
p4.el is somewhat antisocial like this in a number of areas. I'll post my
pet peeves when I've had a chance to upgrade to the latest and greatest.
andy
6:55 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
Andy Piper <andyp(a)bea.com> writes:
At 12:37 AM 8/16/2002 +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote:
>Yep. And the whole idea of messing around with global keymappings this
>way seems somewhat scary to me, shouldn't it just be set in the buffer
>local map where the p4 stuff is active (or did I miss something)?
p4.el is somewhat antisocial like this in a number of areas. I'll post
my pet peeves when I've had a chance to upgrade to the latest and
greatest.
I updated p4.el a few minutes ago and the new code doesn't mess with
the global keymap anymore. If you know of other bad things p4.el is
doing, please let me know.
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Peter Osterlund - petero2(a)telia.com
http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340
4:01 a.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
Hi Peter
I updated p4.el a few minutes ago and the new code doesn't mess
with
the global keymap anymore. If you know of other bad things p4.el is
doing, please let me know.
I have two major gripes with p4 mode, both of which are exacerbated by the
fact that we have the largest p4 installation in the world and it can get
quite slow at times.
The first is the version checking code. In order to find out file
information the p4 client has to make a remote call and this is done
everytime a file is loaded or changed. For me at least the version
information is totally useless but the slowdown when I try and load files is
painful - so I would like some way of turning off the status piece of p4
mode. In other words p4 mode only does something with p4 when I hit a key
combination like C-x p e. This would vastly improve my editing experience.
Certainly the version code in CVS, SCCS and RCS modes all just look at a
local file for version information. I know this is not possible in p4, but I
don't think the version information is useful enough (especially in p4 which
is change oriented) to merit the effort in getting this information.
The second problem is related and is the auto-sync mode. I think this may be
implied by the version checking code rather than designed in. In most other
modes if you edit the file outside of emacs (e.g. sync a new version) you
don't find out about it until you actually come to edit the file - at which
point you are prompted to revert. In p4 mode you get prompted endlessly to
revert files once you have sync'ed them externally (unless you have auto
revert on). I believe the default should be as per emacs norms (principle of
least suprise) and this would also mean that you only incur the cost of
reversion when you actually need it.
Thanks
andy
11:23 p.m.
New subject: p4 keybinding problem (Was: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Updated Packages Released.)
On 16 Aug 2002, Ville Skyttä wrote:
On Thu, 2002-08-15 at 22:44, Peter Osterlund wrote:
>
> Marking p4-toggle-read-only for autoload seems to fix it. However, I
> wonder why the substitute-key-definition is autoloaded in the first place:
>
> ;;;###autoload
> (substitute-key-definition p4-prev-toggle-fkn 'p4-toggle-read-only
> global-map)
Yes, I'm wondering the same thing here...
I've removed the autoload from p4.el now.
Yep. And the whole idea of messing around with global keymappings
this
way seems somewhat scary to me, shouldn't it just be set in the buffer
local map where the p4 stuff is active (or did I miss something)?
I guess it was done this way because vc.el does the same thing. The local
keymap idea sounds good. I'll investigate that.
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http://w1.894.telia.com/~u89404340
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