>>>> "Justin" == Justin Vallon
Justin> At 3:47 AM +0900 2/24/01, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> Nor does it say anything about replicating the binary you have,
> only about access to the sources used to build the binary.
> Debian doesn't keep even one past copy of .diff.gz on its
> servers, let alone all of them for three years!! Do you have a
> global CVS repository? If not, you guys are all in big trouble
> by that argument....
Justin> The same argument could be applied to binary packages of
Justin> GPL software. For most of the rpms that I install, I only
Justin> have binary code. There is no source code, or Makefiles,
Justin> or anything. I do not see that as a violation of the GPL.
Justin> You don't need to package gcc with xemacs, just say that
Justin> you need a compiler.
You're missing the point I was trying to make. Of course the basic
answer is "if you can run the Lisp, you have XEmacs, and you can build
the package with byte-compile-file."
As I read the post attached to Jim's message, however, the poster
wanted the apparatus we use to build packages to make sure that the
locally built package was identical in functionality to the
The GPL _does_ require that you make any patches available for three
years. Now, much of the code in a .elc is actually inline-expanded by
the byte compiler. Recently there was a bug fix to the byte compiler
which changed the inline code, requiring a rebuild of every package.
We have no way of tracking that, but the letter of the GPL probably
requires us to do so if we distribute .elcs. (This doesn't apply to
GCC on Linux, because it's part of the system.) And it certainly
requires Debian to keep its .diff.gzs if they change the upstream
code. (I'm pretty sure the contents of the debian/ directory are
[Aside: I find the GPL very problematic as a foundation for Linux-
style distribution. It is extremely vague on the subject of binary
distribution. It is much better suited to BSD-style "ports" or
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