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Julian Bradfield

Are there any views on the future of Quail in XEmacs? I've been going back to the problem of getting Quail working properly in isearch. I'm almost there, but it is, if you'll excuse my French, a total bloody nightmare. isearch-mode is a twisty self-connecting maze, and so is Quail, so the combination is a 4D twisty multiply self-connecting maze with singularities of of hideous complexity. (The fact that XEmacs has three different definitions of what the minibuffer is, doesn't help, and caused me much grief until I understood it. And since they play fast and loose with events and buffers, the Lisp debugger was pretty much useless.) In FSFmacs, it works much more neatly, because there are a couple more hooks into Quail. It also looks neater, because of a couple more variables which were left out in XEmacs. I have to change Quail anyway even to get my stuff working, so if I were to bring in a few of the FSF changes, would you accept it into the standard packages, along with an updated isearch-mode ? (I usually work from the 21.4 codebase, but I guess there's no reason why the mods in the 21.5 isearch-mode.el shouldn't go back into 21.4 too, if there's ever another release.) _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Re: [COMMIT] xemacs.def.in.in: no longer export acons(), export Facons() instead. 13 years, 10 months

Aidan Kehoe

Ar an séú lá déag de mí Feabhra, scríobh Mats Lidell: > >>>>> Aidan Kehoe <kehoea(a)parhasard.net> writes: > > Aidan> Ar an séú lá déag de mí Feabhra, scríobh Mats Lidell: > > Aidan> Not in practice, none of the modules appear to use it. But if > Aidan> people felt it appropriate to export acons(), then it's equally > Aidan> appropriate to export Facons() to the modules. I've just > Aidan> committed the below, thanks for the reports. > > No problem. I understood I was in deep water so I didn't want to > submit my fix. ;-) > > I don't really understand how Facons can replace acons. Or was it that > acons was the symbol to make external while it was implemented in lisp > and Facons is the c-code symbol? So if a module now would like to use > acons it should link, use, to the Facon symbol? Modules need to know > if the function is implemented in C or in lisp? In a way, yes. The internals manual says this (and this is actually the only part of the internals manual relevant to this question): ‘All C functions that are Lisp primitives begin with a capital F, and no others should begin this way.’ It’s not a big deal one way or the other, any call to acons (X, Y, Z) is equivalent to Fcons (Fcons (X, Y), Z), and any incompatibility can be eliminated by using the latter form. > But I should very, very probably read some internals documents since I > don't know a thing about how lisp interfaces to C in XEmacs. Is it > RTFM again? ;-) -- “Apart from the nine-banded armadillo, man is the only natural host of Mycobacterium leprae, although it can be grown in the footpads of mice.” -- Kumar & Clark, Clinical Medicine, summarising improbable leprosy research _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Re: cygwin build broken due to acons missing but... 13 years, 10 months

The XEmacs Package Smoketest

>>>>> Jeff Sparkes <jsparkes(a)gmail.com> writes: Jeff> Where is it getting acons from? It's not in the source any Jeff> more, or in the object files. It is in xemacs.def and used by dlltool to produce xemacs-export.o which then contains an undefined reference to '_acons' This was my next question. If Aidans patch simply made acons in C visible instead of acons in lisp why do we get the undefined reference? Removing acons from xemacs.def fixes the undefined reference but it is right, does it undermine anything for the modules? Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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quail 13 years, 10 months

Julian Bradfield

[ I think I sent this with some accidentally permuted From address - sorry if this is the second. ] Is there any thought on the future of Quail in XEmacs? I went back to the problem of getting Quail working properly in isearch, and I'm almost there, though it has been a nightmare, as isearch is a twisty self-connected maze, and so is Quail, so the combination is a twisty 4D multiply self-connected maze. (It doesn't help that XEmacs has three different definitions of minibuffer - I spent ages working out why my code did something slightly odd! And the debugger doesn't seem usable with code that plays fast and loose with events. Could it ever be?) However, in FSFmacs it already works, and does so with less contortions, owing to a few things in their Quail and isearch that aren't in ours. I had to modify quail anyway, so I wondered: if I were to bring some of the FSF changes into quail and isearch, would you take them up? (I usually work with the 21.4 codebase, but there are only minor changes in isearch between 21.4 and 21.5.) _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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cygwin build broken due to acons missing but... 13 years, 10 months

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Hi, The recent acons change breaks the cygwin build. acons is exported in xemacs.def. Removing that from xemacs.def makes the build succeed. But before doing that I must ask what is xemacs.def good for. A quick check in the Makefiles reveals that dlltool is involved. The manpage for dlltool talks about "Create files needed to build and use DLLs" But I fail to find any DLLs being built!? Please enlighten me. Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Summary of XEmacs Issue Tracking System Issues 13 years, 10 months

XEmacs Issue Tracking System

ACTIVITY SUMMARY (2011-02-08 - 2011-02-15) XEmacs Issue Tracking System at http://tracker.xemacs.org/XEmacs/its/ To view or respond to any of the issues listed below, click on the issue number. Do NOT respond to this message. 508 open ( +0) / 240 closed ( +0) / 748 total ( +0) Open issues with patches: 11 Average duration of open issues: 786 days. Median duration of open issues: 808 days. Open Issues Breakdown new 178 ( +0) deferred 6 ( +0) napping 4 ( +0) verified 51 ( +0) assigned 155 ( +0) committed 25 ( +0) documented 2 ( +0) done/needs work 24 ( +0) _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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next-single-char-property-change on xemacs vs emacs 13 years, 10 months

Raymond Toy

XEmacs 21.5 has next-single-char-property-change that behaves differently from the version in emacs. When there is no next-single-char-property-change, XEmacs returns nil. But Emacs (according the docstring) returns the end of the object. Similarly, previous-single-char-property-change has the same problem. Is this difference intentional? FWIW, it breaks slime, which assumes Emacs' behavior. For right now, I'm just doing (or (next-single-char-property-change <args>) (point-max)) which works for slime. Ray _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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[Bug: 21.4.21] Paren highlighting 13 years, 10 months

Roland Frank

=============================================================== Dear Bug Team! I always was used to use paren highlighting with the option expression. This no longer works with updated packages. However, the variable paren-mode is set to the right value sexp after startup. As a workaround I now (require 'paren). Regards, Frank ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.21 "Educational Television" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in "c:\\XEmacsBuild\\xemacs-21.4-2007-10-07\\nt". Using compiler "cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -MD". Installing XEmacs in "c:/XEmacsBuild/installed/2007-10-07/XEmacs-21.4.21". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using portable dumper. Using system malloc. Using DLL version of C runtime library Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\todo-mode c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\calendar\todo-mode c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\autorevert c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\edit-utils\autorevert c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\igrep c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\igrep\igrep c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\pc-select c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\pc\pc-select c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\ansi-color c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\text-modes\ansi-color c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\tq c:\Programme\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\xemacs-base\tq c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\scilabelisp\gnuserv c:\Programme\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.21\lisp\gnuserv c:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\roland\Eigene Dateien\.xemacs\custom c:\Programme\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.21\lisp\custom) Internationalization Settings: ------------------------- Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- (xemacs-devel ver: 1.8 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (xemacs-base ver: 2.27 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (vc-cc ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (vc ver: 1.48 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (time ver: 1.14 upstream: 1.17) (text-modes ver: 1.98 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (texinfo ver: 1.3 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (speedbar ver: 1.29 upstream: 1.0pre4) (sounds-wav ver: 1.12 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (sh-script ver: 1.24 upstream: 2.0f) (sgml ver: 1.11 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (semantic ver: 1.21 upstream: 2.0pre4) (ruby-modes ver: 1.04 upstream: 1.8.7) (re-builder ver: 1.05 upstream: 1.20) (python-modes ver: 1.14 upstream: 5.0.0) (psgml ver: 1.45 upstream: 1.3.2) (ps-print ver: 1.12 upstream: 6.5.6) (prog-modes ver: 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upstream: /main/laptop/165) (cc-mode ver: 1.45 upstream: 5.30.10) (calendar ver: 1.38 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (calc ver: 1.26 upstream: 2.02fX3) (c-support ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs filladapt xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 alist mswindows-font-menu font-menu imenu timer-funcs eldoc timer font disp-table backup-dir esh-util eshell lazy-shot paren blink-paren permanent-buffers hideif cc-mode cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds glasses overlay efs-cu message-database xml-parse compile desktop rsz-minibuf ell working avltree stack-m elib-node tempo krl-mode func-menu edebug crypt crypt++ crypt+pgp-pub diminish hideshow ffap view-less view efs-ovwrt default-dir ediff-hook ediff-merg ediff-diff ediff-wind ediff-tbar ediff-help ediff-util ediff-mult ediff-init ediff pending-del pc-select tcl shell-toggle sh-script easy-mmode ctypes cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs tlc allout outline time-stamp jka-compr icomplete completing-help hippie-exp dabbrev calendar cal-xemacs cal-compat ido uniquify bookmark pp ibuffer clearcase reporter executable dired-faces dired-xemacs dired comint ring xref-hks env muse-docbook muse-texinfo texnfo-upd texinfo regexp-opt muse-latex muse-wiki muse-colors font-lock muse-html muse-xml-common muse-mode pcomplete muse-project cus-edit cus-load muse-publish muse muse-protocols info muse-regexps wid-edit cus-face saveplace recent-files advice advice-preload edmacro xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads time-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads re-builder-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads ispell-autoloads igrep-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecb-autoloads dired-autoloads debug-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- home Sh-down M-w down down down down down Sh-insert down down down down down Sh-insert C-x C-s button1 button1up SPC r misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user misc-user button1 button1up home Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-DEL up Sh-down Sh-DEL down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-DEL C-x C-s down down down down end RET RET TAB d e f f2 f2 : RET { RET } up RET TAB b r e a k ; up RET TAB S A S f2 f2 ( S H f2 , SPC S A S f2 _ F f2 ) ; C-x C-s misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Paren mode is paren Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Wrote d:\ws\v8_work\kca_Grundsystem\PC\Components\Safety\hnf\Source\HnfCfgFiles.cpp Wrote d:\ws\v8_work\kca_Grundsystem\PC\Components\Safety\hnf\Source\HnfCfgFiles.cpp File reverted: d:\ws\v8_work\kca_Grundsystem\PC\Components\Safety\hnf\Source\HnfCfgFiles.cpp Hiding... Hiding done Hiding... Enter Hide-Ifdef mode Hiding done Hiding... Enter Hide-Ifdef mode HnfCfgFiles.cpp changed on disk; really edit the buffer? (y, n, r or C-h) Loading userlock...done Loading userlock... Wrote d:\ws\v8_work\kca_Grundsystem\PC\Components\Safety\hnf\Source\HnfCfgFiles.cpp Loading field...done Loading field... Paren mode is sexp _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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Re: file lock specification 13 years, 10 months

Eric S. Johansson

On 2/11/2011 9:32 PM, Brian Palmer wrote: > On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Eric S. Johansson <esj(a)harvee.org > <mailto:esj＠harvee.org>> wrote: > > Emacs uses #filename as the public name for locking a file. This is not > working > with vocola because it uses a very dumb match on ".Vcl". So, I would like to > change the file name used for a lock file but I haven't found in the > documentation yet. A pointer would be appreciated > > > This is an "auto save file" ( see (xemacs)Auto Save Files). You can redefine > make-auto-save-file-name with something like lrwxrwxrwx 1 esj None 15 Feb 12 01:03 .#init.el -> esj(a)jumper.4332 Reading through the documentation, says that should have been #init.el#. Why the difference? _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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bbdb, xemacs21-nomule, squeeze 13 years, 10 months

Andreas Goesele

Hi, after upgrading to Debian squeeze and assuring to have again XEmacs21-nomule I have a problem with bbdb: Reading any email I get the error message "No such coding system utf-8" as bbdb is trying to encode names with utf-8. (See trace below.) Looking at bbdb.el I find: (defun bbdb-name-normalize (name) "Return normalized NAME. NAME is converted to lower case and in a MULE enabled Emacs it is converted to UTF-8 or unibyte to unify the overlapping ISO-8859-* encodings. You may advice this function to allow more sophisticated normalizations." (when name. (setq name (downcase name)) (cond ((functionp 'encode-coding-string) (funcall 'encode-coding-string name 'utf-8)) ((functionp 'string-make-unibyte) (funcall 'string-make-unibyte name)) (t name)))) But this means that my XEmacs-nomule works like a MULE enabled Emacs! As a workaround I changed that function, but the real solution would be to get XEmacs-nomule not to "assume" to be MULE enabled! (As a matter of fact, starting up XEmacs, I now always get the warning "X-Symbol: cannot deduce default encoding, I'll assume `iso-8859-1'". I guess that's also some MULE-related error message which in XEmacs-nomule doesn't make much sense.) I guess this is a bug, but I don't know on which level: Is a bbdb-bug checking for mule by checking for the presence of "encode-coding-string"? A debian bug, by making available "encode-coding-string" in xemacs21-nomule? A xemacs-bug? Or whatever? Thanks a lot in advance Andreas Gösele Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "No such coding system" utf-8) encode-coding-region(1 19 utf-8) encode-coding-string("john doe" utf-8) bbdb-name-normalize("John Doe") bbdb-name=("John Doe" "John Doe") bbdb-annotate-message-sender(("John Doe" "joh.doe(a)some.where") t prompt bbdb-prompt-for-create) byte-code("..." [matches records record net rest-of-nets done annotating bbdb-annotate-message-sender t bbdb-prompt-for-create searching "^" regexp-quote "$" nil bbdb-search-invert-p 6 string-match "" q 0 5 format "Hit C-g to stop BBDB from %s. %d of %d addresses processed." featurep xemacs bbdb-display-message progress message sit-for processed-addresses bbdb-address bbdb-update-records-mode invert mess auto-create-p bbdb-offer-to-create bbdb-case-fold-search offer-to-create bbdb-records case-fold-search hits bbdb-silent-running bbdb-gag-messages addrslen] 7) bbdb-update-records(((authors "From" ("John Doe" "joh.doe(a)some.where"))) prompt nil) bbdb/gnus-update-records(nil) bbdb/gnus-pop-up-bbdb-buffer() run-hooks(bbdb/gnus-pop-up-bbdb-buffer) apply(run-hooks bbdb/gnus-pop-up-bbdb-buffer) gnus-run-hooks(gnus-article-prepare-hook) gnus-article-prepare-display() gnus-article-prepare(45574 nil) gnus-summary-display-article(45574 nil) gnus-summary-select-article(nil nil pseudo) gnus-summary-scroll-up(1) call-interactively(gnus-summary-scroll-up) -- Omnis enim res, quae dando non deficit, dum habetur et non datur, nondum habetur, quomodo habenda est. Augustinus, De doctrina christiana _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta

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