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[Bug: 21.4.15] font-lock-pre-idle-hook error in jde 20 years

James Hurt

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Re: Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual 20 years

Paul Pogonyshev

David Kastrup wrote: > b) why it would be technically impossible for you to change the XEmacs > manual licence to the GFDL: it does not seem like you have handed out > any written assurances that the licence is never going to change. I think because contributing a piece of work implicitly means that you agree to distribute it under the _current_ license. So, to relicense a piece of contributed work, you need an agreement from the author, either got in advance (like FSF copyright assignment includes) or got right before the license change. Since XEmacs has many contributors who hold their copyright, this means that license switch would require collecting agreements from all of them, which might be practically impossible. That said, I agree with you that this is mostly an XEmacs problem, largely caused by their policy of not collecting copyright assignments. The situation is not nice, but I don't see why FSF should go against its decision and its policies. As Robert Chassell said (or meant), FSF cannot ask other to use GFDL if it doesn't use it itself. After all, XEmacs isn't fully cooperative either, since FSF won't merge in non-assigned code. Yes, this is not a legal problem, but a matter of FSF policy, but still... Paul Pogonyshev

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Permission to use portions of the recent GNU Emacs Manual 20 years

Ben Wing

Richard -- The GNU Emacs user's manual has changed its license to the GFDL. The XEmacs manual has a different license -- the GPL. Because of contributions from various parties, we cannot easily change our license, and apparently there are incompatibilities between the GFDL and the GPL. Therefore I am wondering if you will give us permission to incorporate parts of the GNU Emacs manual under the existing XEmacs license, which reads Permission is granted to make and distribute verbatim copies of this manual provided the copyright notice and this permission notice are preserved on all copies. ＠ignore Permission is granted to process this file through Tex and print the results, provided the printed document carries copying permission notice identical to this one except for the removal of this paragraph (this paragraph not being relevant to the printed manual). ＠end ignore Permission is granted to copy and distribute modified versions of this manual under the conditions for verbatim copying, provided also that the sections entitled ``The GNU Manifesto'', ``Distribution'' and ``GNU General Public License'' are included exactly as in the original, and provided that the entire resulting derived work is distributed under the terms of a permission notice identical to this one. Permission is granted to copy and distribute translations of this manual into another language, under the above conditions for modified versions, except that the sections entitled ``The GNU Manifesto'', ``Distribution'' and ``GNU General Public License'' may be included in a translation approved by the author instead of in the original English.

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Request: links to Elisp package homepages 20 years

Ben Wing

(in response to a message from Adrian about broken links) > http://home.xnet.com/~blatura/linapps.shtml An "updated" link is http://powerusersbbs.com/linapps/ But this is still from 1998. This looks better: http://www.linux.org/apps/ > http://www-rn.informatik.uni-bremen.de/software/elk/ http://sam.zoy.org/projects/elk/ > http://kaolin.unice.fr/~serrano/emacs/emacs.html > timed out connecting to host > > http://optics.ph.unimelb.edu.au/help/source/texcd2.2/gnu/GNU%2 >0emacs/ispell_port.html > not found (404) > http://www.extundo.com/gnus-imap/ > not found (404) > http://www.hpl.hp.co.uk/people/ange/ > timed out connecting to host > http://www.ultranet.com/~zappo/fsf.shtml > not found (404) This whole section on Elisp packages is totally rotten. Norbert or anyone else, is there an updated list of web pages for independent packages that anyone is maintaining? If not, can people at least send lists of pages that they know about so we can update this info? BTW Adrian, this whole page does not belong under Architecting XEmacs. We need a separate page for links; if we already have one, we need to merge the two. (It looks like there is no such page. Adrian, could you put a "Links" section under the main sidebar, with a pointer to www.xemacs.org/Links/ as well as pointers to the various Links pages, and add a page for Packages and maybe one to include the other stuff from Architecting XEmacs?) I think Architecting XEmacs should be nuked as it is out-of-date and I've incorporated most everything into the internals manual. Once I'm sure there is no remaining info here that isn't there I'll ask you to nuke it, and in its place we should link to the "Future" section of the copy of the internals manual that we keep online.

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[Bug: 21.4.13] uncomment-region 20 years

Surendra Singhi

================================================================ Dear Bug Team! I am able to execute the "M-x comment-region" command, but unfortunately there is no "M-x uncomment-region" function. Is it because I am using some old version of Xemacs? Or is it due to some other reason? Thanks, Surendra Singhi ================================================================ System Info to help track down your bug: --------------------------------------- OS version: Microsoft Windows 2000 [Version 5.00.2195] OS: Windows_NT XEmacs 21.4.13 "Rational FORTRAN" configured for `i586-pc-win32'. Building XEmacs in "d:\\xemacs\\xemacs-21.4-release\\nt". Using compiler "cl -nologo -W3 -O2 -G5 -ML". Installing XEmacs in "c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\XEmacs-21.4.13". Package path is "~\\.xemacs;;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\site-packages;c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages". Compiling in support for Microsoft Windows native GUI. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for GIF images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for X-Face message headers. Compiling in support for toolbars. Compiling in support for dialogs. Compiling in support for widgets. Compiling in support for native sounds. Compiling in fast dired implementation. Using portable dumper. Load-Path Lisp Shadows: ---------------------- (C:\Xemacs\XEmacs-21.4.13\slime\tree-widget c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\jde\tree-widget C:\Xemacs\XEmacs-21.4.13\slime\cl-indent c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\prog-modes\cl-indent c:\Program Files\XEmacs\xemacs-packages\lisp\build\build-report c:\Program Files\XEmacs\XEmacs-21.4.13\lisp\build-report) Installed XEmacs Packages: ------------------------- (zenirc ver: 1.15 upstream: 2.112) (xwem ver: 1.14 upstream: 0.2) (xslt-process ver: 1.11 upstream: regular) (xslide ver: 1.09 upstream: 0.2.2) (xlib ver: 1.12 upstream: 0.2) (xemacs-devel ver: 1.64 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (xemacs-base ver: 1.87 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (x-symbol ver: 1.1 upstream: 4.5.1) (w3 ver: 1.3 upstream: 4.0pre47) (vm ver: 7.18 upstream: 7.17) (viper ver: 1.37 upstream: 3.09) (view-process ver: 1.13 upstream: 2.4) (vhdl ver: 1.19 upstream: 3.32.20) (vc-cc ver: 1.22 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (vc ver: 1.38 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (tramp ver: 1.17 upstream: 2.0.35) (tpu ver: 1.14 upstream: 4.2X) (tooltalk ver: 1.15 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (tm ver: 1.37 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (time ver: 1.14 upstream: 1.17) (textools ver: 1.15 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (text-modes ver: 1.78 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (texinfo ver: 1.25 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (supercite ver: 1.2 upstream: 3.55x3) (strokes ver: 1.1 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (speedbar ver: 1.27 upstream: 0.14beta4) (sounds-wav ver: 1.12 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (sounds-au ver: 1.12 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (sml-mode ver: 0.11 upstream: 3.9.5) (slider ver: 1.15 upstream: 0.3x1) (sieve ver: 1.16 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (sh-script ver: 1.18 upstream: 2.0e) (sgml ver: 1.11 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (semantic ver: 1.18 upstream: 1.4.2) (scheme ver: 1.14 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (sasl ver: 1.14 upstream: 1.14.4) (ruby-modes ver: 1.02 upstream: 1.6.8) (rmail ver: 1.14 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (riece ver: 1.15 upstream: 0.2.2) (reftex ver: 1.34 upstream: 4.21) (python-modes ver: 1.06 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (psgml-dtds ver: 1.03 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (psgml ver: 1.43 upstream: 1.3.1) (ps-print ver: 1.11 upstream: 6.5.6) (prog-modes ver: 2.01 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (pgg ver: 1.04 upstream: 0.1) (perl-modes ver: 1.06 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (pcomplete ver: 1.03 upstream: 1.1.6) (pcl-cvs ver: 1.65 upstream: R-2_9_9) (pc ver: 1.26 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (os-utils ver: 1.35 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (oo-browser ver: 1.04 upstream: 4.08) (ocaml ver: 0.05 upstream: 3.06) (net-utils ver: 1.44 upstream: N/A) (mmm-mode ver: 1.02 upstream: 0.4.7) (misc-games ver: 1.18 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (mine ver: 1.16 upstream: 1.9) (mh-e ver: 1.28 upstream: 7.4.2) (mew ver: 1.18 upstream: 1.94.2) (mailcrypt ver: 2.14 upstream: 3.5.8) (mail-lib ver: 1.67 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (liece ver: 1.13 upstream: 1.4.9) (jde ver: 1.46 upstream: regular) (ispell ver: 1.29 upstream: 3.6) (ilisp ver: 1.33 upstream: 5.12.0) (igrep ver: 1.13 upstream: 2.111) (idlwave ver: 1.31 upstream: 5.1) (ibuffer ver: 1.09 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (hyperbole ver: 1.16 upstream: 4.18) (hm--html-menus ver: 1.23 upstream: 5.9) (haskell-mode ver: 1.07 upstream: 1.45) (gnus ver: 1.8 upstream: 5.10.6) (gnats ver: 1.16 upstream: 3.101) (general-docs ver: 1.01 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (games ver: 1.15 upstream: 1.04) (fsf-compat ver: 1.14 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (frame-icon ver: 1.11 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (fortran-modes ver: 1.04 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (forms ver: 1.15 upstream: 2.37) (footnote ver: 1.16 upstream: 0.18x) (eudc ver: 1.39 upstream: 1.32) (eterm ver: 1.15 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (ess ver: 1.1 upstream: 5.2.2) (eshell ver: 1.07 upstream: 2.4.1) (escreen ver: 1.01 upstream: 1.16) (erc ver: 0.12 upstream: Version 4.0 Revision: 1.675) (emerge ver: 1.11 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (elib ver: 1.11 upstream: 1.0) (eieio ver: 1.05 upstream: 0.17) (efs ver: 1.32 upstream: 1.22) (edt ver: 1.13 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (edit-utils ver: 2.14 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (ediff ver: 1.5 upstream: 2.75) (edebug ver: 1.21 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (ecrypto ver: 0.17 upstream: 2.0) (ecb ver: 1.18 upstream: 2.24) (docbookide ver: 0.07000000000000001 upstream: 0.1) (dired ver: 1.15 upstream: 7.11) (dictionary ver: 1.12 upstream: regular) (debug ver: 1.17 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (crisp ver: 1.14 upstream: 1.34) (cookie ver: 1.15 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (clearcase ver: 1.08 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (cc-mode ver: 1.43 upstream: 5.30.9) (calendar ver: 1.23 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (calc ver: 1.25 upstream: 2.02fX3) (c-support ver: 1.2 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) (build ver: 1.14 upstream: 2.02) (bbdb ver: 1.24 upstream: 2.34) (auctex ver: 1.38 upstream: 11.14) (apel ver: 1.27 upstream: 10.2) (ada ver: 1.14 upstream: 2.27) (Sun ver: 1.15 upstream: No-Upstream-Ver) Features: -------- (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 cc-mode cc-fonts cc-menus cc-cmds cc-styles cc-align cc-engine cc-vars cc-defs regexp-opt font disp-table paren blink-paren pending-del lazy-lock latex tex advice advice-preload tex-site tex-mik inf-lisp slime byte-optimize bytecomp byte-compile apropos edmacro timer easy-mmode tree-widget wid-edit overlay font-lock cus-face hyperspec thingatpt browse-url hideshow pp comint ring zenirc-autoloads xwem-autoloads xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xlib-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads xemacs-base-autoloads x-symbol-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads sml-mode-autoloads slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads sasl-autoloads ruby-modes-autoloads rmail-autoloads riece-autoloads reftex-autoloads python-modes-autoloads psgml-dtds-autoloads psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads pgg-autoloads perl-modes-autoloads pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads oo-browser-autoloads ocaml-autoloads net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads hyperbole-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads gnats-autoloads general-docs-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads frame-icon-autoloads fortran-modes-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads ess-autoloads eshell-autoloads escreen-autoloads erc-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads ecrypto-autoloads ecb-autoloads docbookide-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads apel-autoloads ada-autoloads Sun-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks code-cmds gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar dragdrop mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp file-coding mswindows-scrollbars mswindows toolbar native-sound scrollbar network-streams subprocesses menu-accelerator-support menubar md5 xemacs gutter tiff png gif jpeg xface xpm xbm lisp-float-type windows-nt dragdrop-api dialog devices window-system base64) Recent keystrokes: ----------------- button1up C-x b d s f s d f d s RET d f s l k h d RET d f l k d f j ; f d l RET d f l j d f ; l j d f RET d f j l f d j ; M-x l i s p TAB m TAB RET Sh-up Sh-up Sh-up Sh-up M-x c o m TAB m e n t - TAB RET Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down Sh-down M-x u n c TAB BS TAB C-g RET s d k s ; d k home ; misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): ----------------------------------- Loading xemacsbug...done Loading xemacsbug... Quit Making completion list... Making completion list... Quit Making completion list... Making completion list... Making completion list... Making completion list... Making completion list... Loading cc-mode...done Loading cc-mode... Loading font...done Loading font... Paren mode is sexp Loading paren...done Loading paren... Loading pending-del...done Loading pending-del... -- Surendra Singhi www.public.asu.edu/~sksinghi/

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[Bug:21.4.16] regex.c and xemacs hangs. 20 years

Andrey Slusar

Hi, please, review the latest commit to regex.c from xemacs-21.4 branch: --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- 2004-10-07 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> * regex.c (re_match_2_internal): Map internal to external registers. Fixes bug identified by Steve Youngs 2004-09-30 <microsoft-free.87ekkjhj7t.fsf(a)youngs.au.com>. --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- If i am saved the edited text(combination C-x C-s), xemacs is hang. When i'm reverting this changes, xemacs is good working. -- Regards, Andrey.

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Package links 20 years

Ben Wing

So far, from freshmeat: http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=emacs&section=projects The following homepages: http://www.gnu.org/software/auctex/ http://bbdb.sourceforge.net/ http://ecb.sourceforge.net/ http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html http://josefsson.org/sieve/ http://jdee.sunsite.dk/ http://emacspeak.sourceforge.net/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/ilisp/ http://www.wonderworks.com/vm/ http://www.gnus.org/ http://www-sop.inria.fr/[..]el/Manuel.Serrano/flyspell/flyspell.html http://sf.net/projects/erc http://www.lysator.liu.se/projects/about_psgml.html http://www.mew.org/ http://xslt-process.sourceforge.net/index.php http://sourceforge.net/projects/xslide/ http://ficus-www.cs.ucla.edu/geoff/ispell.html http://mailcrypt.sourceforge.net/ http://eicq.sf.net/ http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats/

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Re: Some links updates 20 years

Adrian Aichner

"Ben Wing" <ben(a)666.com> writes: > I would split out a "General Development Resources" section from "General C > Development Resources" and include Unicode, the Open Group and Garbage > Collection. > > Also, replace the Garbage Collection link with: > > "Richard Jones's Garbage Collection page" > > http://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/rej/gc.html Done. > > Also, under the Troubleshooting Links page: > > [a] The link to the troubleshooting section of the FAQ is messed up. Fixed. Now that you have spread out the Windows information over multiple sections, Q2.2.1 should probably get a cross reference to the binaries available from http://www.xemacs.org. > [b] I think the FAQ links for the various packages need to be in a more > obvious place. > > In fact, I'd suggest that we have *one* page for Links, not three separate > ones. It's too hard to find things otherwise. Which URLs are the three you are refeerring to? > > Also, put in a link to http://www.gnu.org/software/guile/guile.html (Guile) > under Lisp Development Resources. Done. > > Also, I think it's important to merge the stuff on Architecting XEmacs with > the Optional Libraries page and with > http://ftp.xemacs.org/pub/xemacs/aux/00README.txt. Each of these contains > different but overlapping info. In particular, the Optional Libraries page > and 00README.txt are nearly identical but each contains some updated info > from the other. 00README.txt should definitely be generated automatically > by a script, or deleted entirely. I won't get around to do this. > > Also, "Emacs Variants" should go *first* and include > > www.emacs.org www.emacs.org is still pretty much a joke. > > And > > http://john-edwin-tobey.org/perlmacs/ (Perlmacs) > > And http://uemacs.tripod.com/ (MicroEMACS) > > And http://www.lugaru.com/ (Epsilon) > > Also, rename "Resources for XEmacs maintainers only" to "Programs used to > develop XEmacs". Done. > > Also, delete the reference to EGCS and change the GCC homepage to > gcc.gnu.org. Done. > > Change the Cygwin home page to www.cygwin.com. Done. > > Change the GNATS home page to http://www.gnu.org/software/gnats/. Done. > > Add GTK www.gtk.org. Done. > > > -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

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