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Re: Question about HTML mode of XEmacs 23 years, 7 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Adamek <peter.adamek(a)utoronto.ca> writes: Peter> Adrian, Peter> Thanks for your email. I should be able to take it from Peter> here. The URL you requested below is: Peter> http://www.socha.net/XEmacs/index.html#scrshot This isn't part of the XEmacs Website, but it's a valuable resource run by Robin Socha. Peter> One other question for you. There are two documentation Peter> files located at Peter> http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/index.html. They are: Peter> 1) Getting Started With XEmacs (new-users-guide) Peter> 2) XEmacs Users Manual (xemacs) Peter> These apparently come in both postscript and PDF, but the Peter> PDF is not viewable with the regular Adobe Acrobat Reader Peter> for Windows. Is it a special kind of PDF file or is there Peter> a problem witht these files. Could you point me to where I Peter> can find the viewable PDF documents? These problems have been reported before. Unfortunately nobody has taken care of this problem yet. If you have XEmacs installed, you can access these documents via C-h C-i (Info-query) xemacs and C-h C-i new-users-guide respectively. Peter> By the way, what is the difference between the packages: Peter> hm--html-menus 1.14 HTML editing and Peter> psgml 1.19 1.19 Validated HTML/SGML editing. Well, PSGML has a pretty good HTML parser with DTD support and can find syntax errors in the HTML you write C-c C-o runs the command sgml-next-trouble-spot I strongly recommend it. I use it to automatically validate all website content at http:/xemacs.sourceforge.net One thing to be aware of with PSGML: Choose a DTD as the first line of an HTML file with DTD->Insert DTD->... and DTD->Parse DTD Then you're all set. You might want to put this in you site-start.el or .emacs: (setq sgml-custom-dtd '(("HTML-3" "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//IETF//DTD HTML 3.0//EN\">" sgml-default-dtd-file "~/SGML/HTML-3.ced" sgml-omittag t sgml-shorttag t) ("HTML-3S" "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//IETF//DTD HTML Strict Level 3//EN\">" sgml-default-dtd-file "~/SGML/HTML-3S.ced" sgml-omittag t sgml-shorttag t) ("HTML-3.2 Final" "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN\">" sgml-default-dtd-file "~/SGML/HTML-3.2.ced" sgml-omittag t sgml-shorttag t) ;; ("HTML-3.2S Final" ;; "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD Strict HTML 3.2 Final//EN\">" ;; sgml-default-dtd-file "~/SGML/HTML-3.2S.ced" ;; sgml-omittag nil sgml-shorttag nil ;; ) ("HTML-4.0 Transitional" "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN\">" sgml-default-dtd-file "~/SGML/HTML4.ced" sgml-omittag t sgml-shorttag t) ("XHTML-1.0 Strict" "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN\">" sgml-default-dtd-file "~/SGML/xhtml1-strict.ced" sgml-omittag t sgml-shorttag t) ("XHTML-1.0 Transitional" "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN\">" sgml-default-dtd-file "~/SGML/xhtml1-transitional.ced" sgml-omittag t sgml-shorttag t) )) (setq html-helper-address-string (concat "<A HREF=\"/" (user-login-name) ".html\">" (user-full-name) "</A>")) (setq html-helper-timestamp-hook '(lambda () ;; The trailing four spaces cause html-helper-timestamp-end ;; to be indented correctly (kludge). (let ((time (current-time-string)) (zone (nth 1 (current-time-zone)))) (insert " <META HTTP-EQUIV=\"Last-modified\" CONTENT=\"" time " " zone "\">\n") (insert " <META HTTP-EQUIV=\"Expires\" CONTENT=\"" time " " zone "\">\n ")))) (setq html-helper-htmldtd-version "<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC \"-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN\">\n") ;; Please note the (insert ...) forms below! They keep `template-insert' ;; from running those strings thru `tempo-insert-string-functions' which ;; would, according to my setting of ;; (setq tempo-insert-string-functions '(upcase)) ;; `upcase' them (even though) they are no HTML-tags. (setq html-helper-new-buffer-template '( (insert html-helper-htmldtd-version) "<html>\n" " <head>\n" " <title>" (p "Document Title: " title) "</title>\n" (insert html-helper-timestamp-start) (insert html-helper-timestamp-end) "\n </head>\n" " <body>\n" " <h1>" (s title) "</h1>\n" " \n " p "\n \n" " <hr>\n" " <address>" (insert html-helper-address-string) "</address>\n" (insert (html-helper-return-created-string)) ;; $Id and $ need to be kept apart to avoid expansion inside ;; of this file (.emacs, which is also under RCS). " " (insert "$Id") "$" "\n" (insert " \n") " </body>\n</html>\n")) ;;; ;;; psgml-edit.el<1.2> has been edited to make use of ;;; tempo-insert-string-functions. ;;; ;;; Adrian Aichner, Teradyne GmbH Munich, Thu., Jul. 11, 1996. ;;; ;;; Changed from '(upcase) to '(downcase) for transition to XML. (setq tempo-insert-string-functions '(downcase)) ;;; ;;; Add hook function atend. ;;; (add-hook 'sgml-mode-hook '(lambda () (setq sgml-balanced-tag-edit t) (setq sgml-auto-insert-required-elements t) (setq sgml-omittag-transparent t) ;;; Redine markup to be uppercase. ;;; (defmacro sgml-general-case (string) (`(upcase (, string)))) (define-key sgml-mode-map "\C-c-" 'sgml-untag-element) (define-key html-mode-map "\C-c-" 'sgml-untag-element)) t) Peter> Which one would you recommend for writing and editing HTML code? Even when you use PSGML, you can also use hm--html-minor-mode together with it. Either enter it via some psgml hook or enter it manuallly via M-x hm--html-minor-mode I only took a short look at hm--html-minor-mode and find the PSGML context-sensitive menus better. For one thing hm--html-minor-mode only supports physical markup under "Formatting Words...". Logical markup should be used instead (strong, cite, kbd, etc.). Peter> Thank you again, Peter> Peter Peter> I'm using the 21.1 Windows version of XEmacs. I saw on Peter> your web site that certain users have used XEmacs in HTML Peter> mode to create web sites. In this mode, XEmacs formats the Peter> HTML code appropriately (colors and all). According to Peter> your web site, the mode is called hm--html-minor-mode. >> >> Hello Peter, could you please send me the URL to the documentation you >> refer to? >> Peter> When I tried invoking this mode on my XEmacs, it told me Peter> there is no such mode. Is the above HTML mode for XEmacs >> >> To use this mode, please make sure you have following package installed: >> >> hm--html-menus 1.14 HTML editing. >> >> You can check this via Options -> Manage Packages -> List & Install >> Peter> only supported for non-Windows versions of the software or Peter> do I need to link in some HTML library? Any help you could >> >> No, and no. >> Peter> provide would be greatly appreciated. If you could send a Peter> copy of your .emacs file that you have found to be useful Peter> in editing HTML code I would really appreciate it. >> >> I used PSGML mode alone. >> >> You will need to install >> psgml 1.19 1.19 Validated HTML/SGML editing. >> to use it. >> Peter> By the way, does the HTML mode know how to format Peter> javascript and VBscript embedded within the HTML code? >> >> Don't know. >> Peter> Thanks in advance, >> Peter> Peter >> >> Best regards, >> >> Adrian >> >> -- >> Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org> -- Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>

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C/C++ Code Browsing 23 years, 7 months

Dhruva_KRISHNAMURTHY＠delmia.com

Hi, I work in a company where the development is predominantly done in MSDEV ( VC5 ). I use XEmacs and Emacs ( sometimes ) for my development. I would like to know whether there some way of simulating the JUMP to a HEADER FILE from a CPP source file. This is done using Alt-S in MSDEV. This toggles between the header file and the source file provided they have the same name eg: MySource.cpp and Mysource.h Any information in this regard is welcome as this would be a great help to me. with best regards, dhruva

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Re: HELP!!! Need to create shell buffers!!! 23 years, 7 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Fabrice" == Fabrice Popineau <Fabrice.Popineau(a)supelec.fr> writes: Fabrice> * Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> Hello Fabrice, are you also planning to release a binary kit for >> 21.1? Fabrice> In fact I could do it if only I had enough time ! I have Fabrice> an installer for my TeX distribution that I could easily Fabrice> adapt to XEmacs too. The XEmacs community would be very greatful, I'm sure. There's a high potential of NT users who would use XEmacs, if there were a install kit of the last stable release (21.1.12 currently). This should be announced on xemacs-announce and mentioned on the XEmacs website. >> Are you interested in becoming an XEmacs developer on sourceforge? Fabrice> Yes, thanks for the invitation ! Fabrice, you need to open an account on SourceForge. Then just tell me your SF user name and I'll add you to the project as a developer. See http://xemacs.sourceforge.net/About/Website.html to get started. This site should eventually answer for www.xemacs.org. Best regards, Adrian Fabrice> Greetings, Fabrice> Fabrice -- Adrian Aichner <adriana(a)users.sourceforge.net>

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Re: old version of vc.el 23 years, 7 months

Steve Youngs

* Palle Girgensohn <girgen(a)partitur.se> writes: > Hi! > It seems that the package version of vc.el (in package vc) is > out of date. There is a function vc-resolve-conflicts in the > newer versions ( at least the one distributed with emacs-20.7). > This function is expected by pcl-cvs. Would it be possible to > update the vc package. I am not an elisp hacker, or I would > have sent you the patches ;-) Can you send me your copy of vc so I can have a look and perhaps integrate it into the XEmacs version. Thanks. -- |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | | It's a way of life. | |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---|

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Re: [RFC] xemacsweb/News vs. xemacsweb/Release 23 years, 7 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "APA" == Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: APA> Hi All! APA> I am in the process of adding some information about recent releases APA> to the xemacsweb module. APA> One thing I am not clear on at all if the overall design of what APA> should go into the News vs. the Release sub directory. APA> There is some replication between the two. APA> None is easily accessible from the homepage. APA> I'd suggest to add "Release" under the "Getting XEmacs" header in APA> xemacsweb/template.html. This will make it accessible from anywhere APA> on the site. APA> Furthermore, since "News" is a very relative thing, I propose to APA> discontinue that directory (or at least not add to it further) and APA> instead just keep adding short bits to the top of APA> xemacsweb/index.content under "XEmacs Community News" (e.g. links to APA> details in the Release directory). APA> How does that sound? APA> Have I missed any major points in the overall site layout? APA> I'll commit some patches along above lines. Please let me know your APA> objections. I'm perfectly OK to change things again towards more I will now implement the changes proposed above. Best regards, Adrian APA> consistency and simplicity. APA> Best regards, APA> Adrian APA> -- APA> Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org> -- Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>

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Re: [xemacs-packages PATCH] Fix typo in os\os-utils\crypt.el 23 years, 7 months

Adrian Aichner

>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org> writes: Steve> * Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: >> Hello All, >> this patch fixes a problem described in >>> From: nbecker(a)fred.net >>> Subject: Help debugging >>> To: xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org >>> Date: 14 Sep 2000 16:36:57 -0400 >>> Message-ID: <x88hf7isoba.fsf(a)adglinux1.hns.com> >> Steve (Youngs) please let me know whether you want me to commit this >> patch. Steve> Go ahead and commit Adrian. Done >> Which model do you prefer to follow for xemacs-packages? >> For 21.1 Vin applies all patches himself. >> For 21.2 people who get approval for a patch may commit it themselves. >> Review board members can commit unless over-ruled. Steve> I'm happy for people with CVS write access to commit Steve> patches. The only thing I ask is that they wait for Steve> approval before they commit. OK Steve> -- Steve> |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| Steve> | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | Steve> | It's a way of life. | Steve> |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---| -- Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>

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Re: [xemacs-packages PATCH] Fix typo in os\os-utils\crypt.el 23 years, 7 months

Steve Youngs

* Adrian Aichner <aichner(a)ecf.teradyne.com> writes: > Hello All, > this patch fixes a problem described in >> From: nbecker(a)fred.net >> Subject: Help debugging >> To: xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org >> Date: 14 Sep 2000 16:36:57 -0400 >> Message-ID: <x88hf7isoba.fsf(a)adglinux1.hns.com> > Steve (Youngs) please let me know whether you want me to commit this > patch. Go ahead and commit Adrian. > Which model do you prefer to follow for xemacs-packages? > For 21.1 Vin applies all patches himself. > For 21.2 people who get approval for a patch may commit it themselves. > Review board members can commit unless over-ruled. I'm happy for people with CVS write access to commit patches. The only thing I ask is that they wait for approval before they commit. -- |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | | It's a way of life. | |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---|

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Re: gnus + mailcrypt problems 23 years, 7 months

Steve Youngs

* nbecker <nbecker(a)fred.net> writes: > I'm trying the current gnus and mailcrypt. There is some breakage. > Test #1. > C-x m. I'm in Message mode. Make a simple test message. From > Mailcrypt menu, choose Sign Message. Send it. > When I receive the message under gnus, the signature is not > displayed. I have no way to know it's there! However, choosing > verify sigature succeeds. What is the value of 'gnus-treat-strip-pgp'? Set it to nil if you want to see the pgp signatures. But even with this set to t (pgp sigs are stripped off) you can still easily tell if an article is signed or not. Look at the modeline of the article buffer, in particular, what's between the square brackets. If there is a 'p' it means the message has been pgp signed. -- |---<Regards, Steve Youngs>-----------[GnuPG KeyID: EFD82ED2]---| | XEmacs - It's not just an editor... | | It's a way of life. | |----------------------------------<mailto:youngs＠xemacs.org>---|

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Re: gnus + mailcrypt problems 23 years, 7 months

John S. J. Anderson

nbecker(a)fred.net writes: > C-x m. I'm in Message mode. Make a simple test message. From > Mailcrypt menu, choose Sign Message. Send it. > > When I receive the message under gnus, the signature is not > displayed. I have no way to know it's there! However, choosing > verify sigature succeeds. Have you tried frobbing gnus-treat-strip-pgp? > Test #2. Just about the opposite result. > > C-x m. I'm in Message mode. Choose Message/Attach File as Mime. > Attach a file. Again, Mailcrypt/Sign Message. Send. > > Now view under gnus. This time, the signature is visible. Good. > Now try verify signature. It fails! Here, I have no help. You might get more feedback on the Gnus mailing list and/or newsgroup. john. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ John S Jacobs Anderson \ <URL:http://www.xemacs.org> You'll have to pry my Emacs from my cold \ jacobs(a)xemacs.org dead oversized control-pressing left pinky finger. -- Randal L. Schwartz

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window configurations and the point 23 years, 7 months

John H Palmieri

Hi, I'm trying out XEmacs 21.2-b35, and I have problem with window configurations: they seem to work a little differently compared to XEmacs 21.1, and also compared to GNU Emacs. In particular, I have some code that does this: ;; start with the point in window 1. (setq bozo (current-window-configuration)) ... ;; do stuff that puts the point in the minibuffer, and also opens up ;; window 2, leaving both windows 1 and 2 visible ... (set-window-configuration bozo) In XEmacs 21.1 and GNU Emacs, the end result would be that the window 2 would go away, and the point would remain in the minibuffer. In XEmacs 21.2, window 2 goes away, but the point also jumps back to window 1. I think this is in contradiction with the documentation for current-window-configuration, which says Documentation: Return an object representing the current window configuration of FRAME. If FRAME is nil or omitted, use the selected frame. This describes the number of windows, their sizes and current buffers, and for each displayed buffer, where display starts, and the positions of point and mark. An exception is made for point in the current buffer: its value is -not- saved. Note the last sentence. Because of this, set-window-configuration shouldn't change the point. It does, though. This looks like a bug to me. Or was this behavior changed intentionally, and the documentation not updated? (I tried looking at the mailing list archives and found lots of things about window configurations, but nothing about window configurations and moving the point. Sorry if I missed something relevant.) -- John H. Palmieri Dept of Mathematics, Box 354350 palmieri(a)math.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.math.washington.edu/~palmieri Seattle, WA 98195-4350

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