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Oscar Figueiredo

>>>>> "Glynn" == Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk> writes: Glynn> SL Baur wrote: >> I don't see this menu item. Glynn> I see it. Glynn> To eliminate any variations, I renamed ~/.vm, ran `xemacs -vanilla', Glynn> and typed `M-x vm-mail RET', and I still got it. Glynn> XEmacs and VM versions are as listed in the X-Mailer: header. This menu item is installed by EUDC. No completion being available on server name and protocol is... ahem... a feature... On the other hand XEmacs looking for completions in the whole obarray in that case is... a problem. I'll try to get a fix on this. Oscar

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[Off Topic] Re: Reconciling Emacs Lisp and Scheme 25 years, 9 months

Didier Verna

karlheg(a)inetarena.com (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > > http://www.red-bean.com/guile/notes/emacs-lisp.html Speaking about that, does anybody have experience in both Guile and Elk ? I'd be interested in a comparison. For what I can see now, Elk is very well documented, has usefull extensions like unix (syscalls) and X11, and seems to be usable in multi-threaded apps. The lastest release occured last year though. On the contrary, guile seems far less mature, not very clean, and the documentation is completely out-of-date. Maybe it's just August, but the guys on the mailing list seem very closed on themselve. I'm wondering how they can expect more people to get involved in guile development under those conditions. --didier

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Re: b52 strangeness 25 years, 9 months

Didier Verna

Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk> writes: > SL Baur wrote: > > > I don't see this menu item. > > I see it. > > To eliminate any variations, I renamed ~/.vm, ran `xemacs -vanilla', > and typed `M-x vm-mail RET', and I still got it. I get it too. It's a menu item provided by eudc. I believe the offending code is this line in the function eudc-set-server: (interactive "sDirectory Server: \nSProtocol: ") Notice the `S' matching any symbol for the protocol field. A bit rude :-/ -- / / _ _ Didier Verna http://www.inf.enst.fr/~verna/ - / / - / / /_/ / E.N.S.T. INF C214 mailto:verna＠inf.enst.fr /_/ / /_/ / /__ / 46 rue Barrault Tel. (33) 01 45 81 80 72 75634 Paris cedex 13 Fax. (33) 01 45 81 31 19

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Re: [Crash] gnuclient -nw 25 years, 9 months

Jan Vroonhof

Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk> writes: > Using `gnuclient -nw <filename>' kills XEmacs, but only when started > from the WM. If it is started from an xterm or the console, it works > fine. Which OS... Linux probably? (judging from the libs) (Could you please recreate using an XEmacs with "-g"? (even nicer would be if libgpm.so and/or glibc were also "-g" compiled). > (gdb) where > #0 0x403ad4b1 in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6 > #1 0xbfffce34 in ?? () > #2 0x403323bd in ?? () from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1 > #3 0xd0000 in ?? () > Cannot access memory at address 0x1000d. (is this in a signal handler?) It is crashing in libgpm (maybe in a signal handler). the gpm code cannot handle what we do with it (see the PROBLEMS file), so maybe this just another symptom. However I am not sure we are doing everything correctly when creating tty devices. > make-device(tty "/dev/ttyp4" (terminal-type "xterm" controlling-process 2825)) Somebody on Digital Unix reported this: # (unwind-protect ...) make-device(tty "/dev/ttyp4" (terminal-type "vt100" controlling-process 1069)) # bind (controlling-process terminal-type tty) make-tty-device("/dev/ttyp4" "vt100" 1069) apply(make-tty-device ("/dev/ttyp4" "vt100" 1069)) # bind (dest-frame new-frame old-device-num quick view flags list type) gnuserv-edit-files((tty "/dev/ttyp4" "vt100" 1069) nil) With the following C part (gdb) where #0 0x3ff82067a10 in __kill () #1 0x120086950 in fatal_error_signal (sig=-2113585884) at emacs.c:220 #2 <signal handler called> #3 0x120191690 in _free_internal (ptr=0x3ffc062e0a0 "") at gmalloc.c:789 #4 0x120191b54 in free (ptr=0x3ffc062e0a0 "") at gmalloc.c:950 #5 0x3ff8082a260 in setupterm () #6 0x3ff80825d54 in tgetent () #7 0x1200b2504 in init_tty_for_redisplay (d=0x140648000, etc. There is also another guy having weird buffering problems between gnuserv and XEmacs IF AND ONLY IF he starts XEmacs from his windowmanager. Weird... Jan

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Re: [Crash] gnuclient -nw 25 years, 9 months

SL Baur

Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > Jan Vroonhof wrote: ... >> I think he starts XEmacs from his WM but is running gnuclient in an >> xterm. > Yep, that is the case. I see. That should work. >> Anybody have a clue about what is typically different between a WM >> environment and say a shell in Xterm? (Note the unix environment is >> more-or-less the same in each case) The Unix environment more than likely isn't unless you have been really, really careful. I'm constantly running into differences. > Well, XEmacs has no controlling tty. In my case (fvwm2), stdin is > /dev/null and stdout/stderr are ~/.xsession-errors. Good. > Also, a program run from an xterm will generally inherit any > environment settings which are made in /etc/profile, ~/.profile etc, > while a program run from the WM won't. Right. > However, my Xsession script sources both of these files, so there > shouldn't be any differences in the environment in this case. Unless you do something different when the scripts are run interactively -vs- noninteractively.

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Re: [Success but...] 21.0 "Erzgeberg-pre1" XEmacs Lucid on i586-pc-linux 25 years, 9 months

Tetsuya HOYANO

> T> Updated via CVS and runs OK so far but build-report says > T> `Cannot open load file: images' Am I missing some ? > > Try > > M-x customize-group build-report > > and see whether your settings make sense. I don't see any that makes sense to me to solve... > > Good luck, Thanks, I've found that I can prepare the build-report safely if I don't load the mime-setup that I believe from tm-1.1x (I've tried both of 1.10 and 1.11 binary package) in my .emacs. --HOYANO

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Reconciling Emacs Lisp and Scheme 25 years, 9 months

Karl M. Hegbloom

> http://www.red-bean.com/guile/notes/emacs-lisp.html

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Re: b52 strangeness 25 years, 9 months

Neal D. Becker

>>>>> "sb" == SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: sb> I don't see this menu item. What else are you doing? sb> nbecker <nbecker(a)fred.net> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: >> Just fooling around with b52, I tried tools/directory/get email. >> When prompted for protocol, I hit ? for completions. After a long >> time I got a list of I don't know what, every symbol known to emacs? tools/directory/get email. Then I'm prompted "name:" I answer "nbecker". I'm prompted "Directory server" I say "junk". Then I'm prompted "Protocol:". I hit '?'. I see "Making completion list...". This goes on for a very very long time.

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Re: b52 strangeness 25 years, 9 months

SL Baur

I don't see this menu item. What else are you doing? nbecker <nbecker(a)fred.net> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > Just fooling around with b52, I tried tools/directory/get email. > When prompted for protocol, I hit ? for completions. After a long > time I got a list of I don't know what, every symbol known to emacs?

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PNG problems with "Erzgeberg-pre1" (i586-pc-cygwin32) 25 years, 9 months

Remek Trzaska

Hi guys! I just upgraded libpng 1.0.2 on "CYGWIN32_95 PIGLET 4.10 19.1 i586 unknown", I think successfully (test results attached). However, when I wanted to see Steve's alter ego ;-) (/xemacs-20/etc/photos/slb.png) I got not too nice message: (1) (image/warning) (error "Invalid image-instantiator format" png) png is not supported! Unfortunately, I don't recall whether or not PNG support was ever working in compiled by me on cygwin32 betas. How to tackle this thing? Remek BASH.EXE-2.01$ ./pngtest.exe Testing libpng version 1.0.2 with zlib version 1.1.3 Testing pngtest.png: Pass 0: rwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrw Pass 1: rwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrw Pass 2: rwrwrwrwrwrwrwrw Pass 3: rwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrw Pass 4: rwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrw Pass 5: rwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrw rwrwrwrwrw Pass 6: rwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrwrw rwrwrwrwrwrw PASS (9782 zero samples) tIME = 7 Jun 1996 17:58:08 +0000 libpng passes test -- Remek Trzaska http://www.npac.syr.edu/users/remek Research Scientist Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University, NY

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