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Re: User Poll: Do you have access to PNG libraries? 26 years

Oliver Graf

Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk> writes: > On comp.emacs.xemacs SL Baur wrote: > > > Future versions of XEmacs will have greater dependence on PNG when > > we convert internal Xpm images to PNG. > Oh dear. That's anyone that doesn't use `normal' colours stuffed. What does 'normal colors stuffed' mean? > > PNG provides lossless, highly compressed graphics with 24 bit color. It > > is superior to everything that we are currently using. > Except Xpm. Why is XPM superiour to PNG? Cause it's plain text? Regards, Oliver.

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Re: User Poll: Do you have access to PNG libraries? 26 years

William M. Perry

nbecker(a)fred.net writes: > png has very good compression. I wasn't aware that xpm was > compressed. It's not, but it is plain text and compresses very well with compress or gzip. It's easy to make the loading code uncompress them when needed. -Bill P.

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test 26 years

Colin Rafferty

I just got a bounce: ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- <xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.xemacs.org.: >>> MAIL From:<craffert＠ms.com> SIZE=1352 <<< 553 ... FNORD Mail from 199.89.64.72 refused, see http://maps.vix.com/rbl/ 501 ... Data format error ----- Original message follows -----

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Re: User Poll: Do you have access to PNG libraries? 26 years

Neal D. Becker

png has very good compression. I wasn't aware that xpm was compressed.

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Re: User Poll: Do you have access to PNG libraries? 26 years

Mike Scheidler

"Glynn" == Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk> writes: Glynn> Glynn> By `normal' colours, I mean light background, dark foreground. If Glynn> (like me) you have a dark background, then you need to use light Glynn> foreground colours. Doing this for text is simple enough. Doing it for Glynn> Xpm images is also straightforward (via xpm-color-symbols), provided Glynn> that they have symbolic colours defined. Glynn> Glynn> However, if all of the images simply contain hardcoded colour Glynn> settings, the overall appearance tends to get worse the further your Glynn> colour scheme is from that of whoever designed the images. Glynn> Glynn> [...] Glynn> >> Why is XPM superiour to PNG? Cause it's plain text? Glynn> Glynn> That's an advantage (IMHO), but the main issue for me is symbolic Glynn> colour names. I second Glynn's comments. The XPM format is great for things like toolbar icons because of the configurability that symbolic color names offer. I don't know much about the PNG format, but unless it has similar symbolic color capabilities, it would be a net loss, IMHO. Currently, the XEmacs toolbar makes some use of symbolic colors, but a lot more could be done in this area. -- Mike Scheidler c23mts(a)eng.delcoelect.com Corporate Software Technology Delphi Delco Electronics Systems PHONE: (765) 451-0319 Kokomo, IN 46904-9005 GMNET: 8-322-0319

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smart save-buffer 26 years

David Bakhash

Hi, I was wondering what people would think of a smarter `save-buffer' function. I was thinking that, if a file has been auto-saved since the last time it was edited, then C-s (save-buffer) should maybe save by renaming the auto-save file to the file itself. That would be faster, right? (especially for our VM folders :-) dave (note: I am not on the xemacs-beta mailing list, so if you reply, please CC: to me)

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Re: Packages-Info ... 26 years

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Holger" == Holger Schauer <schauer(a)coling.uni-freiburg.de> writes: >>>>> "AP" == Andy Piper schrieb am Wed, 15 Jul 1998 19:43:17 +0100: AP> Here are my comments and additions, additions have >>>>New AP> Stuff>>>, comments are just in straight text. Holger> Comments on your comments/additions. Note I've already integrated this stuff, with numerous changes of my own, into the Texinfo docs. Please refer to that. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: User Poll: Do you have access to PNG libraries? 26 years

Glynn Clements

On comp.emacs.xemacs SL Baur wrote: > Future versions of XEmacs will have greater dependence on PNG when > we convert internal Xpm images to PNG. Oh dear. That's anyone that doesn't use `normal' colours stuffed. > PNG provides lossless, highly compressed graphics with 24 bit color. It > is superior to everything that we are currently using. Except Xpm. -- Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk>

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Re: Mail Info 26 years

William M. Perry

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes: > At 08:59 30/07/98 -0500, William M. Perry wrote: > > Has anybody thought of writing a MAPI back-ended movemail for use under > >windows? > > I'm considering at least writing regexp matching for movemail so that you > could just move messages matching a particular regexp. > > What advantage would MAPI bring? Is it faster than pop? It still bugs me > that exchange returns mail via pop in reverse order. You would be able to access any mailbox that provides a MAPI front-end. Various legacy mail systems do this (online services, etc). It would also allow you to use the default system POP or IMAP client instead of having your own. Not necessarily a good thing, but central configuration is good. -Bill P.

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cursor display bug 26 years

Greg Klanderman

xemacs -vanilla (y-or-n-p "yes or no: ") C-x C-e and notice that the cursor is displayed (filled) in both *scratch* and the minibuffer/echo area. greg

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