1:35 p.m.
* XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" is released.
"Artificial Intelligence" is the fifth in the OXYMORON series.
Relative to XEmacs 21.4.3 "Academic Rigor", it contains a few typo
fixes in the documentation, some minor bugfixes in the user interface,
and some fixes to critical bugs, mostly in the MS Windows code.
*** MS Windows users should NOT upgrade to 21.4.4 unless you ***
*** are prepared to help debug certain known problems. Wait ***
*** for 21.4.5. ***
Unfortunately, there seems to be a bad bug somewhere in the new code
for MS Windows, which causes frequent crashes. The primary Windows
developer is currently out of the country, and I am about to leave for
two weeks of vacation. So I decided to release "Artificial
Intelligence" on the strength of the improvements on other platforms,
and be prepared to make a new release to address the MS Windows issues
and a few other pending patches immediately on my return.
More detailed information about the changes is presented below.
The first release in this series, Xemacs 21.4.0 "Solid Vapor",
contained a large number of improvements and extensions to the current
stable version, XEmacs 21.1.14. For more information about the
OXYMORON series, see etc/NEWS, the initial release announcement
http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.0.html
and the release planning page,
http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/Public-21.2/.
For general information about XEmacs, the developers, and the user
community, see our home page,
http://www.xemacs.org/.
* XEmacs 21.4.4 is "gamma" software.
Besides the usual "no warranty" disclaimer (see etc/WARRANTY, sections
10 and 11), we are now experimenting with a level of stability
intermediate between "beta" and "stable", dubbed "gamma".
At this
point all the developers and most of our beta testers trust the 21.4
code base with all their editing needs. However, for several reasons,
for users who absolutely must minimize risk, we continue to recommend
the 21.1 series.
It seems likely that 21.4.5 will be released in about 3 weeks when I
return from abroad, to address the MS Windows problems. It is hoped
that the following release will be designated "stable."
* Changes included in XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence"
This file briefly describes all changes to XEmacs in the OXYMORON
series of releases. In principle there should be no user interface
changes listed here, since this is intended to be a stable series. In
practice, some bugfixes do involve user-visible changes. In general
users should be happy about them, but they may affect workarounds you
have put in place. So those that do are noted here with (**).
Also, the MS Windows platform support is not fully mature, and the GTK
platform support is explicitly experimental. In those cases
improvements that provably do not affect other platforms are accepted.
The platform affected is noted, and the change is flagged (**).
Fixing a critical bug is not considered a "user interface change" in the
sense that there should be no way for it to interfere with you getting
more work done.
The changesare grouped into run-time, build-time, and "documentation
and data" changes.
For more details, including developers involved and dates, see the
ChangeLogs below.
- (**) There is a bug in "window procedures" under MS Windows only.
Non-debug builds print a warning on stderr, and you may want to
consider XEmacs unstable (save and restart) if you see it (debug
builds assert here).
- Printing the selection is implemented for MS Windows
- C-g now works on MS Windows
- Kinsoku (text wrapping for Asian scripts) fixes
- "Scrolling with no scrollbar" crash on MS Windows fixed
Krause).
- Case conversion works for Cyrillic
- Help is available with C-x s
- M-x locate-library completes library names
- (**) `replace-match' supports FSF-style match subexpressions
- `compose-mail' is supported in about.el
- (**) Renaming custom.el to inhibit loading it works
- (**) "Reset to standard" works with "set" and "saved"
Custom
buffers
- `Unbalanced parentheses' bug when dealing with mixed comment
styles in c++/java/etc. mode fixed
- Byte-compiler optimization fixes
- Dired can handle directory names with unusual characters
- Popup menus work with popup-menu-titles turned off
- (**) M-? now invokes Help
- Data corruption in network streams on MS Windows fixed
- A few improvements and bug fixes in GTK support.
- (**) EsounD support is no longer autodetected; you must explicitly
request it. EsounD does evil things with signals and XEmacs
cannot protect itself from the race conditions created.
- (**) The "excessively long startup when not networked" (often on
Red Hat Linux) problem is addressed with a configure option that
defeats IPv6 host name canonicalization, `--with-ipv6-cname=no'.
See also the discussion in PROBLEMS.
- Better detection of Cygwin Perl
- Support for old Cygwin betas dropped
- Better support for Windows Millenium Edition
- --with-widgets=no no longer autodetects Athena
- Self tests work if directory is a symlink
- Use ld reported by gcc, not gcc itself, to link
- TAR define added to src/Makefile
- Many small and medium documentation fixes, including an improved
etc/sample.init.el, German tutorial, CCL fonts documentation
- etc/xemacs-ja.1 replaced with new translation
- much improved FAQ
* ChangeLogs
The changes in this release are grouped in the following sections.
Some patches overlap a couple of sections, I (somewhat arbitrarily)
assigned them to the section I thought was most important.
The message ID and the URL with each log refer to the post in which
teh patch was proposed on xemacs-patches.
RELEASE CANDIDATE 3
RELEASE CANDIDATE 2
UI and API CHANGES
GENERAL BUG FIXES
MS WINDOWS - printing
MS WINDOWS - set_file_times
MS WINDOWS - C-g handling
MS WINDOWS - miscellaneous
GTK
MISCELLANEOUS
DOCUMENTATION
RELEASE CANDIDATE 3
<15196.1288.138343.769692(a)turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00069.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-07-22 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
* event-msw.c (mswindows_wnd_proc): Add GC debugging assert.
<15196.462.687249.746246(a)turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00068.html
./ChangeLog
2001-07-22 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
* configure.in (with_esd_sound): Default to no.
* configure.usage: Various documentation improvements.
* configure.in (--with-ipv6-cname): New Boolean option. Defaults on.
* configure.usage:
* PROBLEMS (IPv6 CNAME lookup):
Document it.
<15196.462.687249.746246(a)turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00068.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-07-22 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
* config.h.in (IPV6_CANONICALIZE): New #define for --with-ipv6-lookup.
* process-unix.c (unix_canonicalize_host_name):
sysdep.c (init_system_name):
Use it to conditionally support IPv6 canonicalization.
<FENWAY95sao0eCdPap400001472(a)fenway.corp.soundbite.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00013.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-06-05 Paul Krause <pkrause(a)soundbite.com>
* event-msw.c: replace unsafe call to stderr_out with
mswindows_output_console_string
<n162ylx0.fsf(a)ecf.teradyne.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00051.html
./ChangeLog
2001-07-18 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* etc\TUTORIAL: Fix minor typo.
* etc\TUTORIAL.de: Sync with TUTORIAL.
RELEASE CANDIDATE 2
Typo in ChangeLog fix due to Nix.
Change format of in version.sh codename string due to Bill Gates.
Reported by Adrian.
<yosupub9h4de.fsf(a)jpl.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00022.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-07-10 Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka(a)jpl.org>
* mule/kinsoku.el (kinsoku-bol-p): Work with ascii and non-ascii
mixed text.
(kinsoku-eol-p): Ditto.
2001-07-09 Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka(a)jpl.org>
* mule/kinsoku.el (kinsoku-ascii-eol, kinsoku-gb-bol,
kinsoku-gb-eol, kinsoku-big5-bol, kinsoku-big5-eol): Assign
characters as the category `s' or `e' correctly.
<yz17kyxzij2.fsf(a)milhouse.cs.cornell.edu>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00199.html
./src/Changelog
2001-05-31 Paul Stodghill <stodghil(a)cs.cornell.edu>
* event-msw.c:
Cygwin does not define WM_IME_xxx. Modify the #if's accordingly.
<003601c0e020$67f10d40$6401a8c0＠paulkrause>
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-19 Paul Krause <paulkrause1(a)mediaone.net>
* scrollbar-msw.c: Fixes a crash that occurs on Windows when an
attempt is made to scroll when no scroll bar is available.
<005f01c10fbc$6c61edb0$090a050a(a)soundbite.com>
./nt/ChangeLog
2001-07-18 Paul Krause <paulkrause1(a)mediaone.net>
xemacs.mak: Improved detection for cygwin perl.
Supercedes <FENWAYUfKRfcjcMzfoV00000f4e(a)fenway.corp.soundbite.com>
<15133.17889.988505.202517(a)tyranny.hsys.msk.ru>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00016.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-06-06 Alexey Mahotkin <alexm(a)hsys.msk.ru>
* xemacs/mule.texi: Typo fixes and describe CCL and fonts.
* lispref/mule.texi: Typo fixes and describe set-charset-registry.
<15133.17889.988505.202517(a)tyranny.hsys.msk.ru>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00016.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-06 Alexey Mahotkin <alexm(a)hsys.msk.ru>
* mule/cyrillic.el: Uncomment definition of ccl-encode-koi8-r-font.
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-14 Alexey Mahotkin <alexm(a)hsys.msk.ru>
* mule/cyrillic.el: Set up case table.
<y9lofrz77zt.fsf(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00027.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-08 Mike Sperber <mike(a)xemacs.org>
* files.el (save-some-buffers-1): Don't zap the help window right
after `map-y-or-n-p' has popped it up.
<15142.14867.525787.322728(a)turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00053.html
./nt/ChangeLog
2001-06-12 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs.mak (HAVE_ZLIB): New, defaults to HAVE_PNG.
(USE_MINITAR): Default to HAVE_ZLIB.
(MSW_LIBS): Add comctl32.lib if HAVE_WIDGETS.
(mostlyclean, nicenclean, distclean, versionclean): Only one target
per invocation of $(DEL); don't use unneeded switches (WinME support).
UI and API CHANGES
<y9lwv966j49.fsf(a)sams.informatik.uni-tuebingen.de>
./src/ChangeLog
2001-03-31 Mike Sperber <mike(a)xemacs.org>
* search.c (Freplace_match): Support FSF-style specification of
match subexpression when applied to a buffer.
<15160.50052.863645.73187(a)europe.nortel.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00099.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-26 Robert Pluim <rpluim(a)bigfoot.com>
* packages.el (locate-library): Use read-library-name for completion.
<15160.50790.460079.416332(a)europe.nortel.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00100.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-26 Robert Pluim <rpluim(a)bigfoot.com>
* package-ui.el (pui-install-selected-packages): reverse the lists
of packages so that they get handled in the same order as they
were selected.
<microsoft-free.x4pub3lxg4.fsf(a)slackware.mynet.pc>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00034.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-07-14 Sean MacLennan <seanm(a)storm.ca>
* package-admin.el (package-install-hook): New.
(package-delete-hook): New.
(package-admin-add-single-file-package): Use package-delete-hook.
* package-get.el (package-get): Use package-install-hook.
<sxsoftm4b29.fsf(a)florida.arsdigita.de>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200104/msg00086.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-04-24 Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)arsdigita.com>
* about.el (about-mailto-link): Use compose-mail for sending mail.
<muxy9sz343m.fsf(a)uzeb.lrde.epita.fr>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200104/msg00061.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-04-17 Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org>
* startup.el (load-user-init-file): define `custom-file' before
loading the user's init file.
<mux1yqqdqbq.fsf(a)uzeb.lrde.epita.fr>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200104/msg00064.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-04-18 Didier Verna <didier(a)xemacs.org>
* cus-edit.el (Custom-reset-standard): reset to standard settings
not only when the buffer's :custom-state is 'modified, but also
when it is 'set or 'saved.
GENERAL BUG FIXES
<uofrqvxzn.fsf(a)ispras.ru>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00064.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-15 Nick Pakoulin <npak(a)ispras.ru>
* help.el (frob-help-extents): Require 'hyper-apropos for faces.
<mqqoftzthg6.fsf(a)eng.cam.ac.uk>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200104/msg00040.html
./ChangeLog
2001-04-14 Gordon Sadler <gbsadler1(a)lcisp.com>
* configure.in: Add GTK_CFLAGS to CPPFLAGS for glade.h check.
<15167.31192.971882.809294(a)tyranny.hsys.msk.ru>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00000.html
./ChangeLog
2001-07-01 Alexey Mahotkin <alexm(a)hsys.msk.ru>
* configure.in (option processing): with_widgets=m is ambiguous;
don't allow it.
(AC_CHECKING for the Athena widgets): Don't check for Athena when
with_widgets=no.
<5020000.994949898＠flashingchance>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00025.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-07-11 Matt Tucker <tuck(a)whistlingfish.net>
* syntax.c (find_start_of_comment):
Fix `unbalanced parentheses' bug when dealing with mixed comment
styles in c++/java/etc. mode
<15111.24585.586600.484683(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00127.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-05-20 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org>
* bytecomp.el (byte-compile-arithcompare):
Only optimize (= x) ==> t if byte-compile-delete-errors is not nil.
<15112.31246.180077.975624(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00136.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-05-21 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org>
* byte-optimize.el (=): `=' is not a binary predicate!
Fix incorrect optimization: (= 0 0 (random 2)) ==> 0 or 1.
Use byte-optimize-predicate, not byte-optimize-binary-predicate,
<15123.9022.247285.42002(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00184.html
./ChangeLog
2001-05-29 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org>
* configure.in: Remove stray backslash.
<15127.8885.609982.512779(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00000.html
./tests/ChangeLog
2001-05-29 Martin Buchholz <martin(a)xemacs.org>
* automated/mule-tests.el:
Avoid test failure if (temp-directory) is a symlink.
<B72977D8.45533%abegel(a)eecs.berkeley.edu>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00111.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-17 Andrew Begel <abegel(a)eecs.berkeley.edu>
* lrecord.h (INIT_EXTERNAL_LRECORD_IMPLEMENTATION): Add needed cast.
<B729780C.45534%abegel(a)eecs.berkeley.edu>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00112.html
./ChangeLog
2001-05-17 Andrew Begel <abegel(a)eecs.berkeley.edu>
* aclocal.m4 (LTLD): Don't use "gcc", use the ld reported by gcc.
<87u22s1ffj.fsf(a)u.sanpo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00059.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-11 Yoshiki Hayashi <yoshiki(a)xemacs.org>
* lisp.h (EMACS_INT_MAX): This should be one bit less since
EMACS_INT is signed.
<200104180223.WAA13090(a)mclean.mail.mindspring.net>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200104/msg00062.html
2001-04-17 Isaac Hollander <ysh(a)mindspring.com>
* gnuserv.c (setup_table): fix 2 signed/unsigned mismatches
* gnuslib.c (connect_to_internet_server): fix signed/unsigned mismatch
<200106220151.VAA31665(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00091.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-06-21 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* dired-msw.c (Fmswindows_insert_directory):
Fix problem noted by Michael Sperber with directories containing
[] and code that destructively modifies an existing string.
<20010409161535.B15607(a)ool-18b88ad6.dyn.optonline.net>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200104/msg00027.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-04-09 Danny Colascione <qtmstr(a)optonline.net>
* menubar.el (popup-mode-menu): Make it work with
popup-menu-titles turned off.
<200105121126.HAA26657(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00065.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-05-12 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* find-paths.el (paths-find-recursive-path):
fix error with null EXCLUDE-REGEXP.
* font-lock.el (font-lock-mode):
fix problem reported by hrvoje with buffers starting with a space.
<200106220151.VAA31665(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00091.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-21 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* help.el (frob-help-extents): Fix problem with undefined face.
* update-elc.el (update-elc-files-to-compile): Compile in proper order.
* keydefs.el (global-map): Add a defn for M-?, previously
undefined, to access help -- in case the terminal is not set up
right, or f1 gets redefined.
MS WINDOWS - printing
<200105060838.EAA10366(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00028.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-06 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* console-msw.h:
* device-msw.c:
* device-msw.c (print_dialog_worker):
* device-msw.c (mswindows_handle_print_dialog_box):
* device-msw.c (syms_of_device_mswindows):
* dialog-msw.c (mswindows_make_dialog_box_internal):
* general-slots.h:
implement printing the selection when it's selected.
<200105060838.EAA10366(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00028.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-05-06 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* dialog.el (make-dialog-box):
* menubar-items.el (default-menubar):
* printer.el (generic-print-buffer):
* printer.el (generic-print-region):
implement printing the selection when it's selected.
MS WINDOWS - set_file_times
<1yp8gt63.fsf(a)rapier.ecf.teradyne.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00189.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-29 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* fileio.c: Include nt.h. Remove lisp_string_set_file_times()
because set_file_times() now takes Lisp_Object path, instead of
char*.
* nt.c: Include buffer.h.
* nt.c (convert_from_time_t): New.
* nt.c (mswindows_utime): New. Use utime, since SetFileTime does
not set mtime correctly.
* nt.h: Declare mswindows_utime().
* sysdep.c (set_file_times): set_file_times() now takes Lisp_Object
path, instead of char*.
* systime.h: Include <sys/utime.h> on WIN32_NATIVE.
<200106020618.CAA12498(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00006.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-06-01 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* nt.c (mswindows_utime):
* nt.c (close_file_data):
fix off-by-one-indirection error.
MS WINDOWS - C-g handling
<200105311247.IAA28237(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00198.html
./src/ChangeLog addition:
2001-05-30 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
For 21.4:
(Stephen, just take all event-msw.c patches. This includes
the "iconify" fix below.)
* event-msw.c:
* event-msw.c (mswindows_dequeue_dispatch_event):
* event-msw.c (assert):
* event-msw.c (emacs_mswindows_quit_p):
* event-msw.c (debug_mswin_messages):
* event-msw.c (debug_output_mswin_message):
* event-msw.c (vars_of_event_mswindows):
Fix yet more problems with C-g handling.
Implement debug-mswindows-events.
MS WINDOWS - miscellaneous
<15119.11444.70000.574489(a)gargle.gargle.HOWL>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00174.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-25 Craig Lanning <CraigL(a)Knology.net>
* s\mingw32.h:
Properly find MinGW's <process.h> inside Cygwin's restructured
include directories. Don't try to include <cygwin/version.h>
since we are dropping support for MinGW in versions of Cygwin
earlier than b21.
* nt.c:
Drop support for MinGW in versions of Cygwin before b21.
* sysdep.c:
Properly find MinGW's <process.h> inside Cygwin's restructured
include directories.
* syswindows.h:
Drop support for MinGW in versions of Cygwin before b21.
* unexcw.c:
Even though a.out.h is no longer detected by configure, allow
MinGW to use it until we figure out how to do the job with Win32.
<FENWAYUfKRfcjcMzfoV00000f4e(a)fenway.corp.soundbite.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00183.html
./nt/ChangeLog
2001-05-28 Paul Krause <pkrause(a)soundbite.com>
* xemacs.mak (DEPEND): defined(_) isn't a reliable method for
detecting if perl is from cygwin. Check $OSNAME as a backup.
DISCARD: Supersedes <005f01c10fbc$6c61edb0$090a050a(a)soundbite.com>
<4.3.2.7.2.20010517121830.00b0a920(a)san-francisco.beasys.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00110.html
./netinstall/ChangeLog
2001-05-17 Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org>
* sysfile.h: don't assume that file attributes are boolean
2001-05-17 Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org>
* win32.h:
* win32.h (NOCOMATTRIBUTE): sync with latest cygwin version.
<62532263.3200087799(a)[148.59.233.133]>
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-29 Mike Alexander <mta(a)arbortext.com>
* console-msw.h (FRAME_MSPRINTER_CHARHEIGHT): Unswap
FRAME_MSPRINTER_CHARWIDTH and FRAME_MSPRINTER_CHARHEIGHT
<200105121126.HAA26657(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00065.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-12 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* event-msw.c (mswindows_dde_callback):
* event-msw.c (mswindows_wnd_proc):
eliminate cygwin warnings.
<200105231035.GAA13007(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00145.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-23 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* device-msw.c (msprinter_init_device):
signal an error rather than crash with an unavailable network
printer (from Mike Alexander).
* event-msw.c:
* event-msw.c (struct winsock_stream):
* event-msw.c (winsock_writer):
* event-msw.c (winsock_closer):
* event-msw.c (make_winsock_stream_1):
cleanup headers. fix (hopefully) an error with data corruption
when sending to a network connection.
* fileio.c (Fexpand_file_name): Fix evil code that attempts
to handle the ~user prefix by (a) always assuming we're referencing
ourselves and not even verifying the user -- hence any file with
a tilde as its first char is invalid! (b) if there wasn't a slash
following the filename, the pointer was set *past* the end of
file and we started reading from uninitialized memory. Now we
simply treat these as files, always.
* buffer.c (common_init_complex_vars_of_buffer): comment change.
<200105231147.HAA15653(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00146.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-23 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* event-msw.c (winsock_writer):
* event-msw.c (winsock_closer):
prior kludgy code was clobbering the buffer, thinking it was
"unused" space to store an unneeded return value; instead, use
the variable we've already got staring us in the face.
<4.3.2.7.2.20010524160839.02dfa610＠pop>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00159.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-24 Kirill 'Big K' Katsnelson <kkm(a)dtmx.com>
* event-msw.c (WM_DROPFILES): Use correct type for OLE characters.
GTK
<86snhme1pz.fsf(a)hel.bp.aventail.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00197.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-30 William M. Perry <wmperry(a)gnu.org>
* event-gtk.c: Check for buttons as modifier keys.
<8666eh375k.fsf(a)hel.bp.aventail.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00201.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-05-31 William M. Perry <wmperry(a)gnu.org>
* font-menu.el: Avoid arithmetic with 'nil' when using the font menu
in XEmacs/GTK.
<863d9hf0rd.fsf(a)hel.bp.aventail.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00011.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-06-03 William M. Perry <wmperry(a)gnu.org>
* dialog-gtk.el (popup-builtin-open-dialog): Don't forget to
return the filename selected by the user!
<987338379.7732.0.camel(a)loki.lausch.at>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200104/msg00046.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-04-15 Michael Lausch <mla(a)1012surf.net>
* scrollbar-gtk.c (gtk_create_scrollbar_instance): Call
gtk_widget_request_size() to give scrollbar >0 width for
GTK >1.2.8.
<86ae3t378p.fsf(a)hel.bp.aventail.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00200.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-20 Drazen Kacar <dave(a)arsdigita.com>
* glyphs-gtk.c (gtk_resource_instantiate): C++ comment -> #if 0
<15189.33914.633203.591427(a)turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00046.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-07-18 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
* specifier.el: define-specifier-tag 'gtk.
MISCELLANEOUS
<200105230148.VAA13292(a)mclean.mail.mindspring.net>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00144.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-22 Isaac Hollander <ysh(a)mindspring.com>
* Makefile.in.in: Use TAR macro instead of hardcoding
tar. Allows use of GNU tar instead of system tar
DOCUMENTATION
A bunch of typo fixes from the late Beta Release Engineer with no
ChangeLogs; leave them that way in memorium.
<iluk82vvtx8.fsf(a)barbar.josefsson.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00008.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-06-02 Simon Josefsson <simon(a)josefsson.org>
* internals/internals.texi (Techniques for XEmacs Developers): Fix
typo in ./configure line.
<87bsof9zbk.fsf(a)n-pl.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00177.html
./ChangeLog
2001-05-27 Kazuo Oishi <oishi(a)n-pl.org>
* etc/xemacs-ja.1: Replace with new translation.
<20010529193619.2664.qmail(a)hsys.msk.ru>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00190.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-05-29 Alexey Mahotkin <alexm(a)hsys.msk.ru>
* xemacs/custom.texi: Documented keyboard shortcut.
* xemacs/mule.texi: Updated to match reality; tiny fixes.
<20010529193619.2664.qmail(a)hsys.msk.ru>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00190.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-05-29 Alexey Mahotkin <alexm(a)hsys.msk.ru>
* coding.el: Tiny typo fixed.
<200106081225.IAA31075(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00029.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-06-08 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs-faq.texi (Top):
* xemacs-faq.texi (MS Windows):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.2.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.2.2):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.2.3):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.2.4):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.2.5):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.2):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.3):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.4):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.4.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.4.2):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Current Events):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q7.0.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q7.0.2):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q7.0.3):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q7.0.4):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q7.0.5):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q7.0.6):
Merge in the rest of Hrvoje's Windows FAQ. Redo section 7
to update current reality and add condensed versions of
new changes for 21.1 and 21.4. (Not quite done for 21.4.)
Lots more Windows updates.
<200106101053.GAA12271(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200106/msg00033.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-06-10 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q1.0.10):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q1.0.11):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q1.0.12):
Update sections on Windows and MacOS availability.
<8zi7hxlo.fsf(a)ecf.teradyne.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00005.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-07-02 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* lispref\windows.texi (Window Configurations): Fix typos.
* lispref\x-windows.texi (Resources): Ditto.
* internals\internals.texi (XEmacs From the Inside): Ditto.
* emodules.texi (Initialization Mode): Ditto.
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.2): Ditto.
<1ynzhwt3.fsf(a)ecf.teradyne.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00007.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-07-02 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q1.0.14): Update information following a
request by Tom Mostyn.
./man/ChangeLog
2001-06-24 Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs/programs.texi: Add node name (Top) to Ebrowse xref.
[Long since committed; added ChangeLog]
<scm66jlgfkm.fsf(a)hookah.kazbek.ispras.ru>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200101/msg00062.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-01-12 Nick V. Pakoulin <npak(a)ispras.ru>
* cl-macs.el (cl-upcase-arg): New function.
(cl-function-arglist): New function.
(cl-transform-lambda): Automatically add CL-style lambda list to
documentation string using functions above.
<200105170631.CAA32586(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00102.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-05-16 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs-faq.texi (Top):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Installation):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q2.1.15):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q2.1.18):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q2.1.19):
document how to debug X errors
<200105200118.VAA32224(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00124.html
./src/ChangeLog
2001-05-19 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* eval.c: doc comment about gcpro'ing in record_unwind_protect.
* process-nt.c:
* process-nt.c (vars_of_process_nt):
remove unused mswindows-quote-process-args. rec for 21.4.
<200105231035.GAA13007(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00145.html
./nt/ChangeLog
2001-05-23 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs.mak (installation):
call `ver' to get the exact os version and put it in the
installation; suggestion from adrian.
<200105231035.GAA13007(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00145.html
./ChangeLog addition
2001-05-23 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* etc\sample.init.el:
* etc\sample.init.el (Init-safe-require): New.
* etc\sample.init.el ((fboundp 'pending-delete-mode)):
* etc\sample.init.el ((eq system-type 'windows-nt)):
* etc\sample.init.el (dired):
* etc\sample.init.el ((Init-safe-require 'efs-auto)):
* etc\sample.init.el (completer):
* etc\sample.init.el (crypt):
* etc\sample.init.el (filladapt):
* etc\sample.init.el ((fboundp 'turn-on-lazy-lock)):
* etc\sample.init.el ((fboundp 'resize-minibuffer-mode)):
* etc\sample.init.el ((Init-safe-require 'scroll-in-place)):
Rewrite to be much more careful about loading features -- now
it decays gracefully even in the complete absence of packages.
Also avoid doing obnoxious things when loading efs.
<200105311247.IAA28237(a)gwyn.tux.org>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200105/msg00198.html
./man/ChangeLog
2001-05-30 Ben Wing <ben(a)xemacs.org>
* xemacs-faq.texi (Top):
* xemacs-faq.texi (MS Windows):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.0.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.0.2):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.0.3):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.0.4):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.1.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.1.4):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.1.5):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.1.6):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.2.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.2.2):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.2):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.3.3):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Q6.4.1):
* xemacs-faq.texi (Current Events):
Major rewrite.
Update all MS Windows info to current.
Redo section 6.1 almost completely.
Incorporate sections 1 and 2 of Hrvoje's FAQ.
<8zhqhahu.fsf(a)ecf.teradyne.com>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-patches/200107/msg00036.html
./lisp/ChangeLog
2001-07-15 Adrian Aichner <adrian(a)xemacs.org>
* about.el (about-personal-info): Fix word duplication typos.
* dialog.el (make-dialog-box): Ditto.
* lisp-mode.el (lisp-indent-function): Ditto.
* package-admin.el (package-admin-delete-binary-package): Ditto.
* package-get.el (package-get-staging-dir): Ditto.
7:29 p.m.
XEmacs 21.4 Release Manager writes:
* XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" is released.
"Artificial Intelligence" is the fifth in the OXYMORON series.
um got a really strange problem when i compiled this
i cant see some of the buttons
i shutdown and restarted after i did the make install
and i was about to build the new version of 21.5
so i started adrians build package and none of the buttons showed up
have been playing around with my .Xdefaults ( from the sample one in 21.4 )
i thought it might be a colour thing but that wasnt it
so i looked at the configure interface and the "set" "save" and
"done" buttons dont show up there
the other ones are fine
i havent changed my system since last build
um not sure what is wrong
not sure where to start looking
any ideas anyone ???
--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Brown
Web Programmer/Sys Admin/Apache Admin Education Development Web
peter(a)edw.com.au www.edw.com.au
rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net
There are only two things that are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and i am not certain about the former
- Albert Einstein
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
5:52 a.m.
Peter Brown writes:
um got a really strange problem when i compiled this
i cant see some of the buttons
i shutdown and restarted after i did the make install
and i was about to build the new version of 21.5
so i started adrians build package and none of the buttons showed up
have been playing around with my .Xdefaults ( from the sample one in 21.4 )
i thought it might be a colour thing but that wasnt it
so i looked at the configure interface and the "set" "save" and
"done" buttons dont show up there
the other ones are fine
i havent changed my system since last build
um not sure what is wrong
not sure where to start looking
any ideas anyone ???
ok an update on this
i have been accepting the default for athena support for ever,
up until this relaese if has found athena and been using xaw by default,
but this release needs to be told to use athena,
i done have motif installed, i do have the mesa libs (needed by gnome)
i have adjusted my configure options to include athena
my old and new Instalation files are below
its probably not really a bug but could be annoying for a newbie without optional x libs
installed
when they start their funky new editor only to discover the widgets dont show up
i will have a go at making a patch for this (might take me a bit) and submit it to
patches
i have not made a patch for XEmacs yet so this will be my first attempt
and i dont completely understand configure scripts yet
i havent rebuilt 21.4.4 yet but the configure output looks good
will keep you posted on my progress
if anyone wants my output from configure let me know
here are the options i used to use for configure
sh configure '--with-sound=none' '--prefix=/usr/X11R6'
'--srcdir=/Data/Hacking/src/xemacs/xemacs-21.4' '--extra-verbose'
'--with-modules' '--with-site-lisp' '--with-site-modules'
'--infopath=/usr/X11R6/info' '--with-prefix'
'--site-includes=/usr/include:/usr/local/include:/usr/X11R6/include'
'--site-libraries=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib'
these produce the following section in Instalation when compiling 21.4.4
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
- X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Lucid scrollbars.
note no athena looked for or included
they used to find athena by default
and here are the new ones
sh configure '--with-sound=none' '--with-dialogs=athena'
'--with-widgets=athena' '--with-dragndrop' '--with-offix'
'--prefix=/usr/X11R6' '--srcdir=/Data/Hacking/src/xemacs/xemacs-21.4'
'--extra-verbose' '--with-modules' '--with-site-lisp'
'--with-site-modules' '--infopath=/usr/X11R6/info' '--with-prefix'
'--site-includes=/usr/include:/usr/local/include:/usr/X11R6/include'
'--site-libraries=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib'
these produce the following section in Instalation
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
- X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Compiling in support for the Athena widget set:
- Athena headers location: X11/Xaw
- Athena library to link: Xaw
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Lucid scrollbars.
Using Athena dialog boxes.
Using Athena native widgets.
Compiling in support for Drag'n'Drop (EXPERIMENTAL).
- Drag'n'Drop prototype: OffiX.
athena looked for found and included
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Peter Brown
Web Programmer/Sys Admin/Apache Admin Education Development Web
peter(a)edw.com.au www.edw.com.au
rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net
There are only two things that are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and i am not certain about the former
- Albert Einstein
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
7:31 a.m.
Andy Piper writes:
At 02:52 PM 7/29/01 +1000, Peter Brown wrote:
>its probably not really a bug but could be annoying for a newbie without
>optional x libs installed
>when they start their funky new editor only to discover the widgets dont
>show up
I think it is a bug.
yeah now that i think about it you are right it is a bug
we cant have nubie users getting confused right from the start
ill have a look at the configure script and see if i can work out how to autodetect athena
by default
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Peter Brown
Web Programmer/Sys Admin/Apache Admin Education Development Web
peter(a)edw.com.au www.edw.com.au
rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net
There are only two things that are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and i am not certain about the former
- Albert Einstein
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
8:32 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH] for athena widgets not being detected by default
Peter Brown writes:
Andy Piper writes:
> At 02:52 PM 7/29/01 +1000, Peter Brown wrote:
> >its probably not really a bug but could be annoying for a newbie without
> >optional x libs installed
> >when they start their funky new editor only to discover the widgets dont
> >show up
>
> I think it is a bug.
yeah now that i think about it you are right it is a bug
we cant have nubie users getting confused right from the start
ill have a look at the configure script and see if i can work out how to autodetect
athena by default
ok have been doing cvs diff's an the configure script
i noticed a new line that basically only checks for athena if it is specified as an
option
should athena be the default widget set used ???
i basically removed the line that checks if widgets are defined as athena
optional patch that defines widgets as athena sent as well
patch included below (this is my first patch so let me know if i did it wrong)
Index: configure
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs/configure,v
retrieving revision 1.147.2.3
diff -u -c -r1.147.2.3 configure
*** configure 2001/07/28 11:46:05 1.147.2.3
--- configure 2001/07/29 07:16:25
***************
*** 8764,8770 ****
echo "configure:8765: checking for X11 graphics libraries" >&5
fi
- if test "$with_x11" = "yes" -a "$with_widgets" =
"athena"; then
echo "checking for the Athena widgets" 1>&6
echo "configure:8770: checking for the Athena widgets" >&5
--- 8764,8769 ----
--
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Peter Brown
Web Programmer/Sys Admin/Apache Admin Education Development Web
peter(a)edw.com.au www.edw.com.au
rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net
There are only two things that are infinite,
the universe and human stupidity,
and i am not certain about the former
- Albert Einstein
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
3:07 p.m.
New subject: [21.4 21.5 VETO] for athena widgets not being detected by default
21.4 21.5 VETO
This was a couple months ago but AFAIK not yet resolved?
>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown
<rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> yeah now that i think about it you are right it is a bug we
> cant have nubie users getting confused right from the start ill
> have a look at the configure script and see if i can work out
> how to autodetect athena by default
Peter> ok have been doing cvs diff's an the configure script i
Peter> noticed a new line that basically only checks for athena if
Peter> it is specified as an option
Peter> should athena be the default widget set used ???
_Motif_ is the default widget set used. This may not be appropriate
now with very few newbies using Motif, and many many newbies using
Athena variants under Linux. But I'm not going to change it in the
stable branch, and I think we should be careful even on the trunk.
Maybe if no widget_set after Motif, try Athena then.
For now, I think that rather than try to do something "smart", we should
default to telling the user he's shooting himself in the foot. In the
part of configure that creates Installation, where the widget set is
announced, if there is no widget set we should check for a window
system. If there is a window system, warn the user that most modern
window systems do support widgets and the missing functionality will
be very noticable. Use --with-widgets, blah blah blah.
A timely patch to that effect would go into 21.4.5; it'll have to wait
for 21.4.6 or later if it's up to me. ;-)
Peter> patch included below (this is my first patch so let me know
Peter> if i did it wrong)
The patch itself is fine. Do include a ChangeLog, either plaintext or
as a [cvs] diff -U 0. Diffs should be taken from the top directory
when possible. Doesn't matter here, but for src/alloc.c, the Index
line should be
Index: src/alloc.c
not
Index: alloc.c
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6:55 a.m.
New subject: [21.4 21.5 VETO] for athena widgets not being detected by default
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
21.4 21.5 VETO
This was a couple months ago but AFAIK not yet resolved?
dont believe so
i can re-do these patches
which branch do you want me to diff them with ??
[snip]
Peter> should athena be the default widget set used ???
_Motif_ is the default widget set used. This may not be appropriate
now with very few newbies using Motif, and many many newbies using
Athena variants under Linux. But I'm not going to change it in the
stable branch, and I think we should be careful even on the trunk.
Maybe if no widget_set after Motif, try Athena then.
that sounds good
For now, I think that rather than try to do something
"smart", we should
default to telling the user he's shooting himself in the foot. In the
part of configure that creates Installation, where the widget set is
announced, if there is no widget set we should check for a window
system. If there is a window system, warn the user that most modern
window systems do support widgets and the missing functionality will
be very noticable. Use --with-widgets, blah blah blah.
oki
A timely patch to that effect would go into 21.4.5; it'll have to
wait
for 21.4.6 or later if it's up to me. ;-)
Peter> patch included below (this is my first patch so let me know
Peter> if i did it wrong)
The patch itself is fine. Do include a ChangeLog, either plaintext or
as a [cvs] diff -U 0. Diffs should be taken from the top directory
when possible. Doesn't matter here, but for src/alloc.c, the Index
line should be
Index: src/alloc.c
not
Index: alloc.c
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New subject: [21.4 21.5 VETO] for athena widgets not being detected by default
>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown
<rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
Peter> Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
> 21.4 21.5 VETO
>
> This was a couple months ago but AFAIK not yet resolved?
>
Peter> dont believe so
Peter> i can re-do these patches which branch do you want me to
Peter> diff them with ??
Yes, please.
> Maybe if no widget_set after Motif, try Athena then.
Peter> that sounds good
This is appropriate for 21.5, do it there, diff it there.
For now, I think that rather than try to do something
"smart", we should
default to telling the user he's shooting himself in the foot.
oki
A timely patch to that effect would go into 21.4.5; it'll have to
wait
for 21.4.6 or later if it's up to me. ;-)
Peter> patch included below (this is my first patch so let me know
Peter> if i did it wrong)
The patch itself is fine. Do include a ChangeLog, either plaintext or
as a [cvs] diff -U 0. Diffs should be taken from the top directory
when possible. Doesn't matter here, but for src/alloc.c, the Index
line should be
Index: src/alloc.c
not
Index: alloc.c
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7:29 a.m.
New subject: [21.4 21.5 VETO] for athena widgets not being detected by default
[Damn it, why is C-c C-c SEND right next to C-x C-x? Sorry for the
spam to xemacs-patches, guys.]
Please don't send discussion of this nature to xemacs-patches. We
would like to have a 'bot to filter it, but it's a bit complex because
xemacs-patches is also the channel for admin APPROVAL and VETO. So
for now we impose on the posters to clean their headers.
Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown
<rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
Peter> Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
> 21.4 21.5 VETO
>
> This was a couple months ago but AFAIK not yet resolved?
>
Peter> dont believe so
Peter> i can re-do these patches which branch do you want me to
Peter> diff them with ??
Yes, please. Two separate ways to deal with the issue, appropriate
for different branches.
> Maybe if no widget_set after Motif, try Athena then.
Peter> that sounds good
This is appropriate for 21.5, do it there, diff it there.
> For now, I think that rather than try to do something
"smart",
> we should default to telling the user he's shooting himself in
> the foot.
Peter> oki
Ditto, but 21.4 this time. Not necessary for 21.5 IMO.
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New subject: [21.4 21.5 VETO] for athena widgets not being detected by default
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
[Damn it, why is C-c C-c SEND right next to C-x C-x? Sorry for the
spam to xemacs-patches, guys.]
Please don't send discussion of this nature to xemacs-patches. We
would like to have a 'bot to filter it, but it's a bit complex because
xemacs-patches is also the channel for admin APPROVAL and VETO. So
for now we impose on the posters to clean their headers.
oops sorry
Sorry for the inconvenience.
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown
<rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
Peter> Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
>> 21.4 21.5 VETO
>>
>> This was a couple months ago but AFAIK not yet resolved?
>>
Peter> dont believe so
Peter> i can re-do these patches which branch do you want me to
Peter> diff them with ??
Yes, please. Two separate ways to deal with the issue, appropriate
for different branches.
>> Maybe if no widget_set after Motif, try Athena then.
Peter> that sounds good
This is appropriate for 21.5, do it there, diff it there.
>> For now, I think that rather than try to do something "smart",
>> we should default to telling the user he's shooting himself in
>> the foot.
Peter> oki
Ditto, but 21.4 this time. Not necessary for 21.5 IMO.
ok you want the configure process to halt at that point (can that be done) ??
so the user can redo their configuring ??
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New subject: [21.4 21.5 VETO] for athena widgets not being detected by default
>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown
<rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
Peter> ok you want the configure process to halt at that point
Peter> (can that be done) ?? so the user can redo their
Peter> configuring ??
No, let it finish. The user may actually not have (or not want)
widgets. I just want the Installation file to make it plain that the
widgets don't appear because they're not built in.
As for halting, yes it's possible. See the autoconf 2.52 trap file,
aka ./configure.ac, for one way.
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8:37 a.m.
New subject: [PATCH] for athena being the default widget set
Peter Brown writes:
Andy Piper writes:
> At 02:52 PM 7/29/01 +1000, Peter Brown wrote:
> >its probably not really a bug but could be annoying for a newbie without
> >optional x libs installed
> >when they start their funky new editor only to discover the widgets dont
> >show up
>
> I think it is a bug.
yeah now that i think about it you are right it is a bug
we cant have nubie users getting confused right from the start
ill have a look at the configure script and see if i can work out how to autodetect
athena by default
optional patch for the athena widgets problem describe in my last email
Index: configure
===================================================================
RCS file: /usr/CVSroot/XEmacs/xemacs/configure,v
retrieving revision 1.147.2.3
diff -u -c -r1.147.2.3 configure
*** configure 2001/07/28 11:46:05 1.147.2.3
--- configure 2001/07/29 07:25:30
***************
*** 236,242 ****
with_site_modules='yes'
with_menubars=''
with_scrollbars=''
! with_widgets=''
with_dialogs=''
with_file_coding=''
cpp='' cppflags='' libs='' ldflags=''
--- 236,242 ----
with_site_modules='yes'
with_menubars=''
with_scrollbars=''
! with_widgets='athena'
with_dialogs=''
with_file_coding=''
cpp='' cppflags='' libs='' ldflags=''
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>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown
<rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
Peter> i will have a go at making a patch for this (might take me
Peter> a bit) and submit it to patches i have not made a patch for
Peter> XEmacs yet so this will be my first attempt and i dont
Peter> completely understand configure scripts yet
Hi Peter,
make sure to install xemacs-devel and use
M-x patcher-mail
or
M-x patcher-mail-subproject
to create your patches.
(locate-library "patcher")
"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\\lisp\\xemacs-devel\\patcher.elc"
First you'll have to
M-x c u s SPC - g r SPC RET p a t c h e r RET
and setup your projects.
I include my projets atend, to give you an idea.
Please annotate the ChangeLogs, and run C-c C-p i from the patcher
mail buffer when done.
Don't kill the ChangeLog buffers before
C-c C-p i (patcher-insert-change-logs)
Good Luck,
Adrian
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Adrian Aichner writes:
>>>>> "Peter" == Peter Brown
<rendhalver(a)users.sourceforge.net> writes:
Peter> i will have a go at making a patch for this (might take me
Peter> a bit) and submit it to patches i have not made a patch for
Peter> XEmacs yet so this will be my first attempt and i dont
Peter> completely understand configure scripts yet
Hi Peter,
make sure to install xemacs-devel and use
got this installed
M-x patcher-mail
or
M-x patcher-mail-subproject
to create your patches.
cool will do from now on
thanks for all this adrian very helpful as usual :)
(locate-library "patcher")
"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\\lisp\\xemacs-devel\\patcher.elc"
First you'll have to
M-x c u s SPC - g r SPC RET p a t c h e r RET
and setup your projects.
I include my projets atend, to give you an idea.
Please annotate the ChangeLogs, and run C-c C-p i from the patcher
mail buffer when done.
Don't kill the ChangeLog buffers before
C-c C-p i (patcher-insert-change-logs)
Good Luck,
Adrian
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On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, XEmacs 21.4 Release Manager wrote:
For more information about the
OXYMORON series, see etc/NEWS, the initial release announcement
http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.0.html
and the release planning page,
http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/Public-21.2/.
...which reads:
XEmacs 21.4 Release Status
Last Status Update: 29 March 2001
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Perhaps this could be updated?
Gerald
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>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer
<pfeifer(a)dbai.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
Gerald> Last Status Update: 29 March 2001
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Perhaps this could be updated?
Gerald
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8:12 a.m.
>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer
<pfeifer(a)dbai.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
Gerald> XEmacs 21.4 Release Status
Gerald> Last Status Update: 29 March 2001
Gerald> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gerald> Perhaps this could be updated?
Good idea. There's only so much one guy can do; we've lost our beta
release engineer and lots of personnel (including me) had busy springs.
It's on the agenda, but thanks for the reminder. Checking the queue
has also been less the frequently done recently. :-)
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4:33 p.m.
New subject: Re[2]: XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" is released.
Hello Stephen (and the XEmacs List),
What's the latest word on 21.4.5? Since 21.4.4 as I understand doesn't work
with Windows. Is that still correct?
Tuesday, August 14, 2001, 3:12:32 AM, you wrote:
>>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer
<pfeifer(a)dbai.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
SJT> Gerald> XEmacs 21.4 Release Status
SJT> Gerald> Last Status Update: 29 March 2001
SJT> Gerald> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SJT> Gerald> Perhaps this could be updated?
SJT> Good idea. There's only so much one guy can do; we've lost our beta
SJT> release engineer and lots of personnel (including me) had busy springs.
SJT> It's on the agenda, but thanks for the reminder. Checking the queue
SJT> has also been less the frequently done recently. :-)
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6:25 p.m.
New subject: Re[2]: XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" is released.
>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Stuart
<jstuart-devel(a)neo.rr.com> writes:
Jeff> Hello Stephen (and the XEmacs List),
Jeff> What's the latest word on 21.4.5? Since 21.4.4 as I
Jeff> understand doesn't work with Windows. Is that still
The problem is that it crashes fairly often on Windows, but I am still
using it a lot.
I've used 21.5-b2 more over the past one or two weeks, but that
crashes in the same way.
Just be sure to have auto-save turned on :-)
Adrian
Jeff> correct?
Jeff> Tuesday, August 14, 2001, 3:12:32 AM, you wrote:
>>>>>> "Gerald" == Gerald Pfeifer
<pfeifer(a)dbai.tuwien.ac.at> writes:
SJT> Gerald> XEmacs 21.4 Release Status
SJT> Gerald> Last Status Update: 29 March 2001
SJT> Gerald> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
SJT> Gerald> Perhaps this could be updated?
SJT> Good idea. There's only so much one guy can do; we've lost our beta
SJT> release engineer and lots of personnel (including me) had busy springs.
SJT> It's on the agenda, but thanks for the reminder. Checking the queue
SJT> has also been less the frequently done recently. :-)
Jeff> --
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Jeff> jstuart-devel(a)neo.rr.com
Jeff> I sense much NT in you.
Jeff> NT leads to Bluescreen.
Jeff> Bluescreen leads to downtime.
Jeff> Downtime leads to suffering.
Jeff> NT is the path to the darkside.
Jeff> Powerful Linux is.
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1:30 a.m.
New subject: Re[2]: XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" is released.
>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Stuart
<jstuart-devel(a)neo.rr.com> writes:
Jeff> What's the latest word on 21.4.5?
It'll be out in about three weeks, I would guess. I would like to
have _some_ improvement in the crashes Adrian is seeing, and that will
involve bigger changes than I like to make, thus a week (at least) of
prerelease testing. However, since AFAIK those crashes have not been
completely diagnosed, I will make no promises at this point.
It is unlikely that 21.4.5 will show enormous improvements over
21.4.4; there are substantial restrictions on the kinds of changes I
can accept. I think 21.4.4 is acceptable on Windows (and I'm a
naysayer, both by disposition and by job description). 21.4.5 will be
better. If you definitely disagree about 21.4.4, I doubt that 21.4.5
will make the cut, either.
If you tell me specifically what's bothering you, I can be more
definitive about whether there are fixes/improvements in the pipeline.
Jeff> Since 21.4.4 as I understand doesn't work with Windows. Is
Jeff> that still correct?
That has not been correct for many releases. Almost all Emacs
functionality (the missing part is Mule) is present, and in the
praising with faint damns department, XEmacs is definitely more stable
than Windows ME, which Microsoft thinks is good enough to install on
every PC manufactured....
More optimistically, the core developers, in particular Ben Wing, have
been getting excellent performance and at least decent stability for
many months now. However, Your Mileage May (and Does) Vary. If you
have a "good Windows" platform and avoid "dangerous" usage, you will
see as good performance from XEmacs as from most Unix systems, as well
as a more consistent, easier to learn GUI. If not .... The problem
is still telling which platform is "good," which usage is
"dangerous".
But the good platforms are now the great majority; dangerous
practices, rare.
What is currently missing from 21.4 is Mule. There will not be good
internationalization support in the stable line until the next major
release. But if you don't need it, it doesn't matter. There are a
lot of rough edges in the configuration (eg, registry setup and
deinstallation), and not everything in the UI conforms with the Book
of Gates yet. These will get more and more smoothed out over time.
The last big piece (Windows-style printing) fell into place with 21.4.
My reservations, which I have been quite public about, have to do with
the stability issue. I'm not willing to bet _everybody's_ data,
including that of non-developers and non-testers, on XEmacs 21.4 on
Windows without knowing a lot about their usage patterns. That's the
criterion from the point of view of the Release Manager. If one
happened to be like Adrian, it could be a disaster.
However, I would bet _my_ data on XEmacs 21.4 if I were forced to use
Windows. And I believe it's well worth anyone's while to try XEmacs
for a while on the fairly good chance that Adrian's problems are
specific to his Windows setup or XEmacs usage patterns---you very
likely won't have them.
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3:28 a.m.
New subject: Re[3]: XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" is released.
Hello Stephen,
Ok, I should have been more clear then. I THOUGHT I saw in the announcement
for 21.4.4 that if we're running on windows that we should wait for 21.4.5
because there was a nasty bug in 21.4.4. Note: I'm running 21.4.3 with NO
problems at all so... :)
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3:49 a.m.
New subject: Re[3]: XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" is released.
>>>> "Jeff" == Jeff Stuart
<jstuart-devel(a)neo.rr.com> writes:
Jeff> Ok, I should have been more clear then. I THOUGHT I saw in
Jeff> the announcement for 21.4.4 that if we're running on windows
Jeff> that we should wait for 21.4.5 because there was a nasty bug
Ah, _that_. Yes, you did see it. That refers to Adrian's bug. He's
crashing every day. But I'm not seeing many other crash reports, so
if you want the fixes in 21.4.4, it's worth a try (but Adrian's
reports need to be treated seriously). It was the "still not working"
in your post that I was responding to.
Jeff> in 21.4.4. Note: I'm running 21.4.3 with NO problems at all
_Very_ glad to hear that!
Jeff> so... :)
Eminent good sense. There are a couple of important fixes for Windows
in 21.4.4, but if you haven't noticed a need, I guess you don't have
one.
In general, if there's a major fix (crash, data corruption, security),
we'll emphasize it and make a strong recommendation for upgrade.
Everybody wants those.
But because the Windows platform is still not fully mature, I accept
somewhat riskier patches for that platform. So far AFAIK all the bad
outcomes have been build problems. But the jury is still out on
whether Adrian's problem was introduced by a recent patch or not.
The bottom line is that for Unix platforms I generally recommend
upgrading with each release. The only downside is the effort
involved. With the Windows platforms, the user/administrator needs to
exercise some discretion, and see whether the fixes are important to
them, compared to the risk involved in relatively large changes.
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