Well, it's rare that I get a crash (obviously not a good beta tester then) but I CVS updated yesterday. I updated my packages for the first time in ages, and (going for the kill) installed W3. Clicking on the URL http://www.masonhq.com/ in a mail message (under VM) sent xemacs to coresville. I saw a new frame appear, a "looking up host" message appear (I think), and possibly a progress bar, too. (I really am sorry that I'm so vague). (Mind you, I do have Options->Internet->Open URLs With->Netscape, so why it chose W3 is another matter). Here's some info about my machine: bash2-2.03$ cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 6.1 (Cartman) bash2-2.03$ uname -a Linux gristle.office.niss.ac.uk 2.2.12-20 #1 Mon Sep 27 10:40:35 EDT 1999 i686 unknown The obligatory C backtrace. (I don't have a Lisp one - I start XEmacs from the panel). bash2-2.03$ gdb /usr/local/bin/xemacs core GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-redhat-linux"... Core was generated by `xemacs'. Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXaw.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libtiff.so.3...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libpng.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libz.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXpm.so.4...done. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libdl.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libdb.so.3...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libgpm.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libncurses.so.4...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libesd.so.0...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libaudiofile.so.0...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libm.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libc.so.6...done. Reading symbols from /lib/ld-linux.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_files.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nisplus.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libnsl.so.1...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_nis.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libnss_dns.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /lib/libresolv.so.2...done. #0 0x402f14e1 in __kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 (gdb) where #0 0x402f14e1 in __kill () from /lib/libc.so.6 #1 0x80ae201 in fatal_error_signal (sig=11) at emacs.c:272 #2 0x402f1408 in __restore () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/sigaction.c:127 #3 0x81174eb in map_subwindow (subwindow=144580960, x=62, y=562, dga=0xbffff320) at glyphs.c:4423 #4 0x815dc53 in redisplay_output_layout (w=0x8b67ef0, image_instance=146181784, db=0xbffff484, dga=0xbffff474, findex=15, cursor_start=0, cursor_width=0, cursor_height=0) at redisplay-output.c:1216 #5 0x815dc74 in redisplay_output_layout (w=0x8b67ef0, image_instance=146181608, db=0xbffff508, dga=0xbffff4f8, findex=15, cursor_start=0, cursor_width=0, cursor_height=0) at redisplay-output.c:1436 #6 0x8197e99 in x_output_display_block (w=0x8b67ef0, dl=0x851fd20, block=0, start=0, end=1, start_pixpos=46, cursor_start=0, cursor_width=0, cursor_height=0) at redisplay-x.c:488 #7 0x815fbd9 in redisplay_output_display_block (w=0x8b67ef0, dl=0x851fd20, block=0, start=0, end=-1, start_pixpos=46, cursor_start=0, cursor_width=0, cursor_height=0) at redisplay-output.c:1099 #8 0x815cbcf in output_display_line (w=0x8b67ef0, cdla=0x89cb580, ddla=0x87bcec0, line=0, force_start=-1, force_end=-1) at redisplay-output.c:759 #9 0x8123783 in output_gutter (f=0x8becce8, pos=BOTTOM_GUTTER, force=0) at gutter.c:314 #10 0x81241e0 in update_frame_gutters (f=0x8becce8) at gutter.c:524 #11 0x8154939 in redisplay_frame (f=0x8becce8, preemption_check=0) at redisplay.c:6406 #12 0x8154c10 in redisplay_device (d=0x8471d98, automatic=1) at redisplay.c:6523 #13 0x8154e79 in redisplay_without_hooks () at redisplay.c:6582 #14 0x815b0fc in redisplay () at redisplay.c:6639 #15 0x80dd422 in Fnext_event (event=142367396, prompt=136740196) at event-stream.c:2173 #16 0x8096a9b in Fcommand_loop_1 () at cmdloop.c:566 #17 0x8096cdd in command_loop_1 (dummy=136740196) at cmdloop.c:490 #18 0x80b6a8a in condition_case_1 (handlers=136740292, bfun=0x8096ca8 <command_loop_1>, barg=136740196, hfun=0x80960d0 <cmd_error>, harg=136740196) at eval.c:1644 #19 0x8096dbc in command_loop_2 (dummy=136740196) at cmdloop.c:252 #20 0x80b695f in internal_catch (tag=136812004, func=0x8096d84 <command_loop_2>, arg=136740196, threw=0x0) at eval.c:1310 #21 0x809644d in initial_command_loop (load_me=136740196) at cmdloop.c:301 #22 0x80ac7e2 in xemacs_21_2_b31_i686_pc_linux (argc=1, argv=0xbffffb94, envp=0xbffffb9c, restart=0) at emacs.c:1828 #23 0x80ae3e8 in voodoo_free_hook (mem=0x1) at emacs.c:2254 #24 0x402eb1eb in __libc_start_main (main=0x80ae2f0 <main>, argc=1, argv=0xbffffb94, init=0x807c730 <_init>, fini=0x81bedd0 <_fini>, rtld_fini=0x4000a610 <_dl_fini>, stack_end=0xbffffb8c) at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:90 (gdb) nic -- Dr N.J.Doye, Systems Programmer, NISS, PO Box 2674, Bath. 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