Re: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]

Ville> Duh. RedHat's beta contains a 21.4.8 which is built with Ville> OpenMotif widgets and dialogs. I've been running a Ville> modified version of their RPM (21.4.9rc1) for some time now Ville> with no problems. Cool. Do let me know about the rc2 version. Ville> What's the recommended way to build an XEmacs on Linux with Ville> widgets? Probably Qt, if you ask Bill Perry. }:^} Or GTK. I use configure --with-dialogs=athena --with-widgets=athena --with-athena=3d. I think Rendhalver substitutes --with-athena=next, and on the other hand Steve Y adds --with-scrollbars=athena. I think that's pretty vanilla. Ville> Motif doesn't seem to be, and still it's used if Ville> autodetected, no matter what --with-widgets and -dialogs Ville> one wants (also IIRC, and 21.4.9rc1). No, if you specify --with-dialogs=athena, then you shouldn't get Motif unless you specify it for something else. I think the reason for preferring Motif is that (1) it's the preferred toolkit on most commercial platforms, (2) flat Athena is godawful ugly, and (3) autoconf is actually quite stupid about correlating different features. You basically have to hardcode every possible case. So the sensible thing to do is have a reasonable default and make sure that there is some way for users to specify their own idea of an optimal configuration (and get what they asked for!) You could argue against (1) that a lot more people are using Linux these days, but (a) they mostly use RPMs, and (b) those who don't are very likely to have the choice to build and install their own version. Footnotes: [1] They're upward compatible with executables that dynamically link to flat Athena, _unless_ (as XEmacs does) you derive new widgets from existing ones. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py