2:51 p.m.
I noticed this:
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include data.c
data.c: In function `dead_wrong_type_argument':
data.c:117: warning: `noreturn' function does return
data.c: In function `args_out_of_range':
data.c:147: warning: `noreturn' function does return
data.c: In function `args_out_of_range_3':
data.c:153: warning: `noreturn' function does return
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include postgresql.c
In file included from postgresql.h:16,
from postgresql.c:102:
/usr/include/libpq-fe.h:115: warning: declaration of `message' shadows global
declaration
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include toolbar-x.c
In file included from /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/PrimitiveP.h:50,
from xmprimitivep.h:31,
from EmacsFrameP.h:30,
from toolbar-x.c:35:
/usr/X11R6/include/Xm/XmP.h:1241: warning: declaration of `message' shadows global
declaration
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include process-unix.c
process-unix.c: In function `unix_canonicalize_host_name':
process-unix.c:1606: warning: declaration of `gai_error' shadows global declaration
process-unix.c: In function `unix_open_network_stream':
process-unix.c:1698: warning: declaration of `gai_error' shadows global declaration
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include extents.c
extents.c: In function `print_extent_1':
extents.c:2964: warning: int format, Lisp_Object arg (arg 3)
extents.c:2964: warning: int format, Lisp_Object arg (arg 4)
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include fileio.c
fileio.c: In function `report_file_error':
fileio.c:172: warning: `noreturn' function does return
fileio.c: In function `signal_file_error':
fileio.c:195: warning: `noreturn' function does return
fileio.c: In function `signal_double_file_error':
fileio.c:217: warning: `noreturn' function does return
fileio.c: In function `signal_double_file_error_2':
fileio.c:242: warning: `noreturn' function does return
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include glyphs.c
glyphs.c: In function `signal_image_error':
glyphs.c:2146: warning: `noreturn' function does return
glyphs.c: In function `signal_image_error_2':
glyphs.c:2153: warning: `noreturn' function does return
In file included from glyphs-eimage.c:67:
/usr/include/png.h:1814: warning: declaration of `error' shadows global declaration
/usr/include/png.h:1818: warning: declaration of `error' shadows global declaration
/usr/include/png.h:1822: warning: declaration of `message' shadows global declaration
/usr/include/png.h:1826: warning: declaration of `message' shadows global declaration
gcc -g -O3 -mcpu=athlon -march=athlon -c -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow -Demacs -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-I/usr/X11R6/include select-x.c
In file included from /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/DragC.h:48,
from /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Transfer.h:44,
from /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:62,
from /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/CutPaste.h:47,
from select-x.c:45:
/usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Display.h:81: warning: declaration of `time' shadows global
declaration
There are numerous warnings about signed/unsigned, but these are
typically harmless.
4:03 p.m.
If you haven't done it already, an M-x build-report would be _really_
appreciated. I really want to know whether Motif builds are usable at
all on any platform.
>>>> "nbecker" == nbecker
<nbecker(a)hns.com> writes:
nbecker> I noticed this:
Thanks for following up on the warnings. It's been a lot of effort to
get to the point where there are few enough for that to make sense. :-/
nbecker> There are numerous warnings about signed/unsigned, but
nbecker> these are typically harmless.
Yeah, I wish. _All_ of the instances (all two of them) in which I've
lost large quantities of data to XEmacs involved bad signed/unsigned
comparisons.:-(
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have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
4:52 p.m.
>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Stephen> If you haven't done it already, an M-x build-report would be _really_
Stephen> appreciated. I really want to know whether Motif builds are usable at
Stephen> all on any platform.
hey Stephen
i have open-motif here would a build under that help out ??
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5:34 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
>>>> "R" == rendhalver
<rendhalver(a)xemacs.org> writes:
R> hey Stephen i have open-motif here would a build under that
R> help out ??
Yes, please!
There have been a few scattered reports from Linux people with LessTif
of crashes immediately on execution. Suddenly, I got one. If most
Motif platforms build _and run_ OK, I'll release anyway, and warn that
Linux + Motif is bad juju, and try and get 21.4.10 out with a fix
ASAP.
If other platforms are hosed, too, we should try to fix it first.
If you can get a Motif build, and then run it and pop up an X frame
and do a little editing and maybe read some Info, that's good enough
for now. But I'd like to do that much testing before releasing.
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University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't
have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
5:48 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
>>>> "R" == rendhalver
<rendhalver(a)xemacs.org> writes:
R> hey Stephen i have open-motif here
would a build under that
R> help out ??
Stephen> Yes, please!
Stephen> There have been a few scattered reports from Linux people with LessTif
Stephen> of crashes immediately on execution. Suddenly, I got one. If most
Stephen> Motif platforms build _and run_ OK, I'll release anyway, and warn
that
Stephen> Linux + Motif is bad juju, and try and get 21.4.10 out with a fix
Stephen> ASAP.
Stephen> If other platforms are hosed, too, we should try to fix it first.
Stephen> If you can get a Motif build, and then run it and pop up an X frame
Stephen> and do a little editing and maybe read some Info, that's good enough
Stephen> for now. But I'd like to do that much testing before releasing.
ok deal
expect a build report in a short while :)
will start it up tomorrow after sleeping (which i should really be
doing instead of buildding yet another version of XEmacs)
and let you know how it runs.
(thats about 9 versions of XEmacs i have installed here then)
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6:33 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
>>>> "R" == rendhalver
<rendhalver(a)xemacs.org> writes:
>>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>
writes:
>>>> "R" == rendhalver
<rendhalver(a)xemacs.org> writes:
R> hey Stephen i have open-motif here
would a build under that
R> help out ??
Stephen> Yes, please!
well here you go stephen
sending this email from my motif enabled XEmacs 21.4.9
yeah i couldnt wait i had to know if it worked
and it seems to be running gnus oort without crashing
yeah i had to test the bug finding app
so thats a vote for motif on FreeBSD
Stephen> There have been a few scattered reports from Linux people with LessTif
Stephen> of crashes immediately on execution. Suddenly, I got one. If most
Stephen> Motif platforms build _and run_ OK, I'll release anyway, and warn
that
Stephen> Linux + Motif is bad juju, and try and get 21.4.10 out with a fix
Stephen> ASAP.
i can install lesstif and build with that too if you like
Stephen> If other platforms are hosed, too, we should try to fix it first.
Stephen> If you can get a Motif build, and then run it and pop up an X frame
Stephen> and do a little editing and maybe read some Info, that's good enough
Stephen> for now. But I'd like to do that much testing before releasing.
R> ok deal
R> expect a build report in a short while :)
R> will start it up tomorrow after sleeping (which i should really be
R> doing instead of buildding yet another version of XEmacs)
R> and let you know how it runs.
R> (thats about 9 versions of XEmacs i have installed here then)
Instalation info
uname -a: FreeBSD ulthwe.dyndns.org 4.6.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.6.2-RELEASE #0: Tue Aug 20
00:05:19 EST 2002 root＠ulthwe.dyndns.org:/Data/FreeBSD/obj/Data/FreeBSD/src/sys/ULTHWE
i386
configure '--with-menubars=lucid' '--with-athena=next'
'--with-mule' '--with-scrollbars=motif' '--with-dialogs=motif'
'--with-widgets=motif' '--prefix=/Data/bleeding/XEmacs/gamma-motif'
'--with-modules' '--with-site-lisp' '--with-site-modules'
'--infopath=/usr/X11R6/info' '--with-sound=none' '--with-prefix'
'--cflags=-O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro'
'--cppflags=-fmemoize-lookups -fsave-memoized'
'--site-includes=/usr/include:/usr/local/include:/usr/X11R6/include'
'--site-libraries=/usr/lib:/usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib'
'--srcdir=/Data/Hacking/XEmacs/xemacs-21.4' '--extra-verbose'
XEmacs 21.4.9 "Informed Management (RC2)" configured for
`i386-unknown-freebsd4.6.2'.
Compilation / Installation:
Source code location: /Data/Hacking/XEmacs/xemacs-21.4
Installation prefix: /Data/bleeding/XEmacs/gamma-motif
Additional header files: /usr/include /usr/local/include /usr/X11R6/include
Additional libraries: /usr/lib /usr/local/lib /usr/X11R6/lib
Runtime library search path: /usr/local/lib:/usr/X11R6/lib
Operating system description file: `s/freebsd.h'
Machine description file: `m/intel386.h'
Compiler: gcc -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro
Relocating allocator for buffers: yes
GNU version of malloc: yes
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
- X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Motif scrollbars.
Using Motif dialog boxes.
Using Motif native widgets.
TTY:
Compiling in support for ncurses.
Images:
Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
Compiling in support for XPM images.
Compiling in support for PNG images.
Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Compiling in support for X-Face message headers.
Sound:
Databases:
Compiling in support for Berkeley database.
Compiling in support for GNU DBM.
Compiling in support for LDAP.
Compiling in support for PostgreSQL.
- Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h
- Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings.
Internationalization:
Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs).
Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method).
- Using Motif to provide XIM support.
Mail:
Compiling in support for "flock" mail spool file locking method.
Other Features:
Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
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6:36 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org>, on Thu, 22 Aug 2002 at
01:34:34 +0900 you wrote:
If you can get a Motif build, and then run it and pop up an X frame
and do a little editing and maybe read some Info, that's good enough
for now. But I'd like to do that much testing before releasing.
I've got a RedHat Linux 7.2 machine (I'll get around to upgrading
someday:-), with lesstif-0.92.32-6. I built the release candidate. So
far it has NOT crashed. I've done some editing, repeatedly popped up
and dismissed various dialog boxes, etc., and no problem. Upon exiting
it says:
Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list
But that's the only problem so far. I am writing and sending this email
using the release candidate. A build report should be on the way
momentarily.
--
Jerry James
http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/
4:45 a.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org>, on Thu, 22 Aug 2002 at
01:34:34 +0900 you wrote:
> If you can get a Motif build, and then run it and pop up an X
> frame and do a little editing and maybe read some Info, that's
> good enough for now. But I'd like to do that much testing
> before releasing.
>>>> "Jerry" == Jerry James
<james(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Jerry> I've got a RedHat Linux 7.2 machine (I'll get around to
Jerry> upgrading someday :-), with lesstif-0.92.32-6. I built the
Jerry> release candidate. So far it has NOT crashed.
OK, with that and Rendhalver's report for OpenMotif on FreeBSD (if you
can't crash XEmacs running Gnus, it's OK ;-), I'm going to assume it's
something broken in the newer lesstif. I'll give it a day or so for
more reports to come in.
Jerry> Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the
Jerry> list
I think this is a known problem, not yet analyzed.
Many thanks to Rendhalver, Vin, Adrian, Neil, Jerry, and Paul Keusemann
for responding to the request for tests and sending in build reports.
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University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN
My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't
have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
5:52 a.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list
10 beers to anyone who can figure this out. I spent days trying to
figure out why a couple of years ago and eventually concluded that
it must be a lesstif bug. But I still can't get rid of the nagging
suspiscion that I might be wrong.
andy
4:16 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
"Andy Piper" <andy(a)xemacs.org> wrote:
> Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list
10 beers to anyone who can figure this out. I spent days trying to
figure out why a couple of years ago and eventually concluded that
it must be a lesstif bug. But I still can't get rid of the nagging
suspiscion that I might be wrong.
It looks like you aren't the only one who tried to track this down:
<URL:http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=8596&atid=108596&fun...
<URL:http://www.staticfreesoft.com/manual/text/chap01-03.html>
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http://www.ittc.ku.edu/~james/
8:11 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
On Wed, 2002-08-21 at 19:34, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
R> hey Stephen i have open-motif here would a build under
that
R> help out ??
Yes, please!
There have been a few scattered reports from Linux people with LessTif
of crashes immediately on execution. Suddenly, I got one. If most
Motif platforms build _and run_ OK, I'll release anyway, and warn that
Linux + Motif is bad juju, and try and get 21.4.10 out with a fix
ASAP.
If other platforms are hosed, too, we should try to fix it first.
If you can get a Motif build, and then run it and pop up an X frame
and do a little editing and maybe read some Info, that's good enough
for now. But I'd like to do that much testing before releasing.
Duh. RedHat's beta contains a 21.4.8 which is built with OpenMotif
widgets and dialogs. I've been running a modified version of their RPM
(21.4.9rc1) for some time now with no problems.
I'll build 21.4.9rc2 with OpenMotif as soon as I get my hands on it (the
ftp site seems to be still down) and try it out. I'll also notify the
RH folks about this, as soon as I have a mailing list archive link to
point to.
What's the recommended way to build an XEmacs on Linux with widgets? I
tried to build one some time ago with Lucid widgets, but IIRC just
didn't get widgets at all when doing that. Would athena be the way to
go?
Motif doesn't seem to be, and still it's used if autodetected, no matter
what --with-widgets and -dialogs one wants (also IIRC, and 21.4.9rc1).
--
\/ille Skyttä
ville.skytta at xemacs.org
6:19 a.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
>>>> "Ville" == Ville Skytt <Ville>
writes:
Ville> Duh. RedHat's beta contains a 21.4.8 which is built with
Ville> OpenMotif widgets and dialogs. I've been running a
Ville> modified version of their RPM (21.4.9rc1) for some time now
Ville> with no problems.
Cool. Do let me know about the rc2 version.
Ville> What's the recommended way to build an XEmacs on Linux with
Ville> widgets?
Probably Qt, if you ask Bill Perry. }:^} Or GTK.
I use configure --with-dialogs=athena --with-widgets=athena
--with-athena=3d. I think Rendhalver substitutes --with-athena=next,
and on the other hand Steve Y adds --with-scrollbars=athena. I think
that's pretty vanilla.
Ville> Motif doesn't seem to be, and still it's used if
Ville> autodetected, no matter what --with-widgets and -dialogs
Ville> one wants (also IIRC, and 21.4.9rc1).
No, if you specify --with-dialogs=athena, then you shouldn't get Motif
unless you specify it for something else.
I think the reason for preferring Motif is that (1) it's the preferred
toolkit on most commercial platforms, (2) flat Athena is godawful
ugly, and (3) autoconf is actually quite stupid about correlating
different features. You basically have to hardcode every possible
case. So the sensible thing to do is have a reasonable default and
make sure that there is some way for users to specify their own idea
of an optimal configuration (and get what they asked for!)
You could argue against (1) that a lot more people are using Linux
these days, but (a) they mostly use RPMs, and (b) those who don't are
very likely to have the choice to build and install their own version.
Footnotes:
[1] They're upward compatible with executables that dynamically link
to flat Athena, _unless_ (as XEmacs does) you derive new widgets from
existing ones.
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have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
8:32 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 08:19, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Cool. Do let me know about the rc2 version.
Will do in a moment...
No, if you specify --with-dialogs=athena, then you shouldn't get
Motif
unless you specify it for something else.
You're right, that's how it seems to be.
--
\/ille Skyttä
ville.skytta at xemacs.org
10:45 p.m.
New subject: Please build and test --with-{dialogs,widgets}=motif [was: Re: warnings in 21.4.9 compile]
On Thu, 2002-08-22 at 08:19, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Ville> Duh. RedHat's beta contains a 21.4.8 which is
built with
Ville> OpenMotif widgets and dialogs. I've been running a
Ville> modified version of their RPM (21.4.9rc1) for some time now
Ville> with no problems.
Cool. Do let me know about the rc2 version.
Ok, rc2 built on RH7.3 with openmotif-2.2.2-5 widgets and dialogs, in
use and no problems so far. build-report should be on its way too.
--
\/ille Skyttä
ville.skytta at xemacs.org
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