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Patch: wrong autoload cookie in whitespace.el in sumo-2005-01-18 19 years, 9 months

Mike FABIAN

I think the autoload cookie in packages/xemacs-packages/text-modes/whitespace.el before (define-minor-mode whitespace-global-mode is wrong. If this cookie is there, the (define-minor-mode .... is generated into the auto-autoloads.el file and XEmacs sometimes complains that 'define-minor-mode' is not defined when starting. -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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Documentation/implementation discrepancy in font-lock.el 19 years, 9 months

Ralf Angeli

The doc strings of a lot of variables defined in XEmacs' font-lock.el state that they are normally set via `font-lock-defaults'. But in fact none of them will be set by `font-lock-set-defaults-1'. In GNU Emacs these variables can be added with their values as alists to `font-lock-defaults'. Even if the doc string of `font-lock-defaults' in XEmacs' font-lock.el does not mention this possibility, removing the respective notes in the doc strings of variables like `font-lock-syntactic-keywords' would help to prevent stupid people like me from stumbling over this difference between XEmacs and GNU Emacs. -- Ralf

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RE: HTTP fetching [was RE: [VETO] GPG and EFS lossage in package update description] 19 years, 9 months

Ben Wing

> These places have to generalized. They should dispatch over a > transport protocol identifier that gets added to a download > site description. This way we keep backward compatibility > _and_ have the opportunity for other access methods (e.g., > rsync, ssh) if needs arises. This sounds fine to me. > The bigger problem is the actual HTTP access. Currently, > XEmacs provides HTTP access methods only in W3. Clearly, it's > a bad decision to make the package package dependent on such > a mass of code. That means that we need to implement a new > module. My thoughts are on an http.el along the lines of > smtp.el, built upon #'open-network-stream. > > Of course, we also need to get Steve Youngs' agreement with > this approach; after all, package-get.el is him. As he just > answered on xemacs-beta; he doesn't want package-get.el to > depend on something not in core, and the http.el above would > not be in core. Or would it? Yes, it definitely needs to go into core, otherwise you have impossible bootstrapping issues. > But even if we put it in core, > there remains the question how we handle the upgrade path of > those installations where it isn't there yet. (I thought > about adding it to the package package; but that's not a > clean way, IMO.) I think the simple answer is "we don't". The way to upgrade the core is to upgrade XEmacs. We can certainly add this to the next 21.4, if we choose, as well to 22.0 (due out soon?). > If we agree on a design, I would submit an implementation. > Next Sunday, I'll go for a one-week holiday and will have > some time for hacking there. Go for it ...

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HTTP fetching [was RE: [VETO] GPG and EFS lossage in package update description] 19 years, 9 months

Ben Wing

> Mike, is it possible to say something like `do first <a>; if > you still get EFS erros, try <b>; else try <c>'; where my > proposal would just be <a> or <b>? Maybe <c> is `fetch and > install an EFS update manually'? > Well, now that I think about it; maybe manual fetch and > install is the only realistic workaround. We really need to do things by HTTP. This will solve all these problems. What will this involve?

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Does anybody else miss the CVS Monitor? 19 years, 9 months

Stephen J. Turnbull

>From a release management standpoint, the new CVS log accumulator is a big step backward. It used to be possible to get a decent idea of who's doing what by just looking in the MUA summary window, but no more. 1. I miss the friendly "CVS Monitor" From header. (whi-i-i-i-ne :) 2. The new subject line is essentially useless. Specifically, the committer is missing, and much of the time the tiny amount of repository information is far too broad to be helpful. 3. This is especially annoying if you don't have working broadband (I pay for it, but I don't get it half the time) because it means you need to download megapatches just to get committer information. 4. The stable RE is going to have to pay close attention to *both* -patches and -cvs if and when we go to commit-without-submit on the assumption that the commit diffs are good enough. At present, he can ignore -cvs if he chooses. (Not my problem at the moment, but it certainly would be a consideration if I'm a candidate for gamma RE or stable RE in the future.) 5. The commit diffs are not an accurate record for review, and if iterated cannot be applied to variant workspaces, since they compress the patch with -w. Even if the patch applies, a diff against the mainline will be spurious. I know that CVS branches aren't terribly useful, but this will make them even less so. The rest of the stuff I can live with, but I really want committer id in the subject, and I think it's quite desirable to give full patches, bandwidth be damned. Other suggestions: I think that it would be nice if the first line of the log would be a 40- or 50-character "theme statement" that could be picked up. Something like Subject: [Commit by ben] 21.5 - rot13 all identifiers for readability where everything after the [] would be from the committer's log. The "21.5" is a pseudo-module, more or less arbitrarily chosen by the committer, as is the short description. Other examples would be unbundled packages such as "xemacs-devel", projects such as "KKCC", and functional divisions like "redisplay". Bonus points for snarfing message IDs from the log and putting them in a X-Cross-Reference header (at least in my own usage, there is no guarantee that multiple message ids will be threaded, so References is inappropriate). -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

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World Conference in Biology (Buenos Aires, Argentina). Publication in Transactions on Biology and Biomedicine. Invitation for special Sessions. Citation Indexes. 19 years, 9 months

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Re: [AC sjt-xft] Autoconf.ac upgrade. 19 years, 9 months

Stephen J. Turnbull

>>>>> "Malcolm" == Malcolm Purvis <malcolmp(a)xemacs.org> writes: Malcolm> APPROVE COMMIT sjt-xft Malcolm> This patch brings configure.ac into alignment with the Malcolm> latest version of 21.5's configure.in. Malcolm> I still have my mainline based workspace for autoconf 2.5 Malcolm> if an xft-free version is required. Ben says he wants "some" of this stuff in the mainline. If nobody objects in principle, I'd like a review of the COMPLEX_OPTION macros (I have no confidence in my autoconf hacking ability), and if they make sense put them in and start converting --with-sound, --with-database, --with-athena to use them. It's just a copy and paste to add the macros. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

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Re: [VETO] GPG and EFS lossage in package update description 19 years, 9 months

Joachim Schrod

>>>>> "MS" == Michael Sperber <sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de> writes: [F'up from xemacs-patches, that discussion shouldn't be there, should it?] >>>>> "Joachim" == Joachim Schrod <jschrod(a)acm.org> writes: Joachim> Mike, is it possible to say something like `do first <a>; if you still Joachim> get EFS erros, try <b>; else try <c>'; where my proposal would just be Joachim> <a> or <b>? Maybe <c> is `fetch and install an EFS update manually'? Joachim> Well, now that I think about it; maybe manual fetch and install is the Joachim> only realistic workaround. MS> Yes. Alternatively, is there an XEmacs mirror that doesn't have the MS> new RFC stuff in it? That would really be the simplest alternative. Yes, there are some mirrors without EPSV support. They are an even bigger problem; AFAICT they cannot be used at all with ftp clients that send EPSV as first. I re-installed the old efs 1.32 (upstream v1.22) and did some tests, e.g., with ftp.ca.xemacs.org who does not support Extended Passive Mode. This server answers with `500 Unknown command.' and EFS (and thus the package index update) stumbles over that. This is also true for the current efs (1.33, upstream v1.23). I.e., ftp.ca.xemacs.org and others are not usable without configuration for package updates on Linux (at least, not on those where Luke Mewburn's NetBSD ftp client is used) and probably also not on BSD. Is this widely known? For these sites to work, one must add "-A" to the ftp args *and* one must update the package index twice, there is no other possibility. During the first update, the ftp server will answer with `500 Unknown command' first when the EPRT command is used. The ftp client will stop using extended ftp commands then, and use standard PASV/PORT commands the second time. For this to work from the start, EFS would need to issue the command epsv4 to the ftp client. (Most probably, where lukemftp is used, one needs to add "-A" always; otherwise one gets the inconsistency that Mike already mentioned.) In summary, the situation is a mess. There is no workaround that can be easily described and that will really work. I will now update my Web Site patch as follows: -- I will recommend to fetch and install efs manually in case of `Extended Passive Mode' errors. -- I will recommend to switch mirrors in case of `Unknown command' or any other 500 errors. I hope that we can agree on these changes. Cheers, Joachim PS: Is Steve Youngs still the maintainer of package-get.el? If yes, and if he reads this: Would you accept patches that package index and package files are fetched via HTTP? This would probably also help some people who have to use proxies. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim The most exciting phrase to hear in science, the Rödermark, Germany one that heralds new discoveries, is not "Eureka!" <jschrod(a)acm.org> (I found it!) but "That's funny..." [Isaac Asimov]

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Problem building packages in a fresh workspace. 19 years, 9 months

Malcolm Purvis

I've just had problems trying to build the entire package tree in a freshly made workspace. I checked out the workspace using the form recommended in http://www.xemacs.org/Develop/cvsaccess.html: cvs -z3 -d :pserver:cvs＠cvs.xemacs.org:/pack/xemacscvs checkout packages Builds in this workspace failed because the file meta-targets.rules was missing. Updating the workspace with 'cvs update -d -P' brought in the missing file (and lots of others) and I could then build successfully. Does some CVS module definition need to be updated? Malcolm -- Malcolm Purvis <malcolmp(a)xemacs.org>

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Re: [Bug: 21.4.15] Stack overflow in regexp matcher 19 years, 9 months

Adrian Aichner

"Albrecht DreX" <albrecht.dress(a)arcormail.de> writes: > ================================================================ > Dear Bug Team! > > I compiled a file using the "Compile" button, which produced the > following output: > > <snip> > cd /home/albrecht/Balsa/HEAD/balsa-rfc3156/src/ > make -k > make all-am > make[1]: Entering directory `/home/albrecht/Balsa/HEAD/balsa-rfc3156/src' > if gcc -DG_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGDK_PIXBUF_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGNOME_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGNOME_DISABLE_DEPRECATED_SOURCE -DGNOME_VFS_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DGTK_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -DPANGO_DISABLE_DEPRECATED -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/opt/gnome-2.8/share/locale"\" -I.. -I.. -I../libbalsa -I/usr/kerberos/include -DORBIT2=1 -pthread -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/orbit-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gconf/2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gtk-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libart-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/g! tk- > 2.0/include -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2/config -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gnome-vfs-module-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gmime-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomeprint-2.2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libart-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/pango-1.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomeprintui-2.2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gtk-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/atk-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2/config -I/usr/include/libxml2 -DORBIT2=1 -pthread -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgtkhtml-3.1 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gtk-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomeui-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomeprint-2.2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomeprintui-2.2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libglade-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/gtk-2.0/include -I/op! t/g > nome-2.8/include/atk-1.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/pango-1.0 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/freetype2 -I/usr/include/freetype2/config -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/glib-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/glib-2.0/include -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnome-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libgnomecanvas-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libart-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gconf/2 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libbonoboui-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/orbit-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/libbonobo-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/gnome-vfs-2.0 -I/opt/gnome-2.8/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/include -I/opt/gnome-2.8/include/bonobo-activation-2.0 -I/usr/include/libxml2 -I/usr/include/pcre -Wall -Werror -O3 -mcpu=7450 -fsigned-char -Wsign-compare -Wpointer-arith -Wnested-externs -Wchar-subscripts -Wuninitialized -Wmissing-prototypes -Wreturn-type -MT balsa-icons.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/balsa-icons.Tpo" -c -o balsa-icons.o balsa-icons.c; \ > then mv -f ".deps/balsa-icons.Tpo" ".deps/balsa-icons.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/balsa-icons.Tpo"; exit 1; fi > balsa-icons.c: In function `register_balsa_pixmaps': > balsa-icons.c:267: error: `icon_theme_iconsZ' undeclared (first use in this function) > balsa-icons.c:267: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > balsa-icons.c:267: error: for each function it appears in.) > make[1]: *** [balsa-icons.o] Error 1 > make[1]: Target `all-am' not remade because of errors. > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/albrecht/Balsa/HEAD/balsa-rfc3156/src' > make: *** [all] Error 2 > > Compilation exited abnormally with code 2 at Mon Jan 3 15:05:37 > </snip> > > Now I middle-click on the error line, but I get a stack overflow in > regexp matcher error. Sorry for the late confirmation, Albrecht. I can reproduce this in XEmacs 21.5 (beta18) "chestnut" (+CVS-20050202) [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32, Mule) of Fri Feb 04 2005 on D5DC120J when doing a make all in the xemacsweb module of the XEmacs website. Doing C-x ` (next-error) in that *compilation* buffer gives me this *Backtrace*: Best regards, Adrian > > Any idea? > > Thanks in advance, Cheers, > > Albrecht. <306 lines deleted by Adrian Aichner> -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

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