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System type w/gcc2.95 on RH6 (was: ridiculously long subject) 25 years, 3 months

Bless Terje

Hans Reiser <reiser(a)idiom.com> wrote: >Jan Vroonhof wrote: > >>Using egcs 1.1.2 are you? That compiler is broken with respect >>to the warnings. Under Solaris (with CC) and with gcc 2.7.2 or >>gcc 2.95 there are close to know warnings. > >Ok, if the compiler the developer uses generates no warnings, it >is ridiculous to expect more. > >gcc -dumpversion >egcs-2.91.66 > >It is what I got off a fresh redhat 6.0 install. It seems I >should upgrade before I get bit by it. This reminds me... ...I just built GCC 2.95 on a Red Hat 6.0 box and removed the egcs rpms. This broke the config.guess (and thus breaks "configure") from XEmacs 21.1.4. Somewhere in there it does a "ld --help" to extract the "supported emulations". For some strange reason, it only finds "elf_i386" and not "i386linux". I assume this is because ld's output format changed and the sed filter breaks, but I don't speak sed so I'm not sure. Forcing "i586-pc-linux" as an argument to "configure" works. I have no idea how to fix this. Presumably it requires hacking configure.in or a new version of config.guess (maybe one that knows about "elf_i386"?). However, just catching this can be done by checking the exit status of config.guess. I dunno what is the "right" approach here; maybe I'm way off. -link

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> Even "Startup Paths" fails to mention that it will pick up any Jan> non-special subdirectory as separate package hierarchy (As I don't Jan> like that feature I am not unhappy about that). Well, the "feature" is gone now, so we're at least accurate, if not optimally organized. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Holger Schauer

>>>>"MS" == Michael Sperber schrieb am 12 Aug 1999 14:10:19 +0200: MS> What? Where? The above statement is simply false: The info MS> documentation node "Startup Paths" explains precisely how things MS> work. Yes, this is true: --8<------------------------schnipp------------------------->8--- Moreover, XEmacs expects late hierarchies in the subdirectories `site-packages', `mule-packages', and `xemacs-packages' (in that order) of the `<root>/lib/xemacs' subdirectory of one of the installation hierarchies. (If you run in-place, these are direct subdirectories of the build directory.) Furthermore, XEmacs will also search these subdirectories in the `<root>/lib/xemacs-<VERSION>' subdirectory and prefer directories found there. --8<------------------------schnapp------------------------->8--- So, it appears to be my fault (as I said (see the subject), I missed the change, 'cause AFAIR, packages/xemacs-packages used to be a valid path). Holger -- --- http://www.coling.uni-freiburg.de/~schauer/ --- "Perl was the first language to integrate the Unix environment into itself." -- Per Abrahamsen in comp.emacs.xemacs

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Jan Vroonhof

sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes: > Jan> Indeed. The info documentation is outdated. > > What? Where? The above statement is simply false: The info > documentation node "Startup Paths" explains precisely how things work. The Package part is. If I recall correctly there is no reference to the Starup Paths node there for instance. All the correct info is there, but it is hard to find if you come from it from the "where do I need to put this package" angle. Even "Startup Paths" fails to mention that it will pick up any non-special subdirectory as separate package hierarchy (As I don't like that feature I am not unhappy about that). Jan

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> Holger Schauer <schauer(a)coling.uni-freiburg.de> writes: >> If you intend the former, then the documentation has to be updated (I >> think that where exactly packages will be located is only mentioned in >> README.packages, which I BTW think is an omission in the >> info-documentation). Jan> Indeed. The info documentation is outdated. What? Where? The above statement is simply false: The info documentation node "Startup Paths" explains precisely how things work. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Jan Vroonhof

Holger Schauer <schauer(a)coling.uni-freiburg.de> writes: > If you intend the former, then the documentation has to be updated (I > think that where exactly packages will be located is only mentioned in > README.packages, which I BTW think is an omission in the > info-documentation). Indeed. The info documentation is outdated. However I am not so willing to invest time in updating it when there is a good possibility of switching to a subtly changed system so you would have to write it again. I just hope that if we are going to switch to something new it will be finished well before 21.2 is released so that there is time update all documentation. Jan

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XEmacs 21.2 leaks 25 years, 3 months

Michael Sperber

Is noone else seeing that XEmacs 21.2 grows to sizes significantly bigger than 21.1? -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Holger" == Holger Schauer <schauer(a)coling.uni-freiburg.de> writes: >>>>> "MS" == Michael Sperber schrieb am 12 Aug 1999 12:02:09 +0200: >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> If you have a normal package tree (last late-packages) is Jan> "xemacs-packages". MS> That explains it. The pure existence of a packages directory is MS> going to screw you here. Just zap it and you should be fine. Holger> You mean: Holger> "When installing packages, do that in /xemacs/lib/<spec>-packages Holger> instead of /xemacs/lib/packages/<spec>-packages" or do you mean: Holger> "pui folks, please modify the code ?" It means: Zap the packages directory, and it should stop popping up where it has no business. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Holger Schauer

>>>>"MS" == Michael Sperber schrieb am 12 Aug 1999 12:02:09 +0200: >>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> If you have a normal package tree (last late-packages) is Jan> "xemacs-packages". MS> That explains it. The pure existence of a packages directory is MS> going to screw you here. Just zap it and you should be fine. You mean: "When installing packages, do that in /xemacs/lib/<spec>-packages instead of /xemacs/lib/packages/<spec>-packages" or do you mean: "pui folks, please modify the code ?" If you intend the former, then the documentation has to be updated (I think that where exactly packages will be located is only mentioned in README.packages, which I BTW think is an omission in the info-documentation). Holger -- --- http://www.coling.uni-freiburg.de/~schauer/ --- "Perl was the first language to integrate the Unix environment into itself." -- Per Abrahamsen in comp.emacs.xemacs

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Re: Package-Directory silently changed (or loudly but I missed it?) 25 years, 3 months

Michael Sperber

>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> If you have a normal package tree (last late-packages) is Jan> "xemacs-packages". That explains it. The pure existence of a packages directory is going to screw you here. Just zap it and you should be fine. -- Cheers =8-} Chipsy Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla

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