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Re: [BUG] `scroll-up' command broken in 21.2-b20 (AIX 4.3.2) 25 years

ALTMARK＠de.ibm.com

On my Linux build of 21.2-b20, it works, too. But on AIX, I see this strange behaviour which is quite annoying as scrolling should be considered one of your 'basic rights' in an editor ... :-( Markus --- Markus Alt IBM Laboratory Boeblingen, Germany Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> on 11/11/99 11:09:22 AM Please respond to Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> To: Markus Alt/Germany/IBM＠IBMDE cc: xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org Subject: Re: [BUG] `scroll-up' command broken in 21.2-b20 (AIX 4.3.2) ALTMARK(a)de.ibm.com writes: > 1. Started Xemacs: xemacs -vanilla & > 2. Load any file, e.g. ~/.Xdefaults > 3. Press the <Page Down> key (i.e. `next') which runs > `scroll-up-command' or issue `M-x scroll-up RET' > 4. The text does not scroll. It works for me (If I load a file which is actually larger than will fit the window). There seem to be some very weird bugs in the recent betas. Jan

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Re: [Failure] 21.2.20 under IRIX 6.2 25 years

Jan Vroonhof

Paul Bibilo <peb(a)delcam.com> writes: > > Start "./temacs" and it will see the xemacs.dmp file is there and load > > it. > > > OK, I tried this and it does seem to work. Be Positive! Feel proud! You have just had the first obscure dumping problem that the pdumper "fixed"! > If I start temacs from any > other directory than src then I get a "temacs can only be run in > -batch mode" message. > > Surely end users aren't expected to work like this ? Of course not. This is why this is a development version. Jan

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Re: [BUG] `scroll-up' command broken in 21.2-b20 (AIX 4.3.2) 25 years

Jan Vroonhof

ALTMARK(a)de.ibm.com writes: > 1. Started Xemacs: xemacs -vanilla & > 2. Load any file, e.g. ~/.Xdefaults > 3. Press the <Page Down> key (i.e. `next') which runs > `scroll-up-command' or issue `M-x scroll-up RET' > 4. The text does not scroll. It works for me (If I load a file which is actually larger than will fit the window). There seem to be some very weird bugs in the recent betas. Jan

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Re: Package Numbers 25 years

Jan Vroonhof

Andreas Jaeger <aj(a)suse.de> writes: > I guess the number should get increased for each release if anything > has changed. I think this all there is too it. Jan

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Re: [Failure] 21.2.20 under IRIX 6.2 25 years

Paul Bibilo

Jan Vroonhof writes: > Paul Bibilo <peb(a)delcam.com> writes: > > > It fails as follows: > > > Dumping under the name xemacs > > Testing for Lisp shadows ... > > make[1]: execve: ./xemacs: No such file or directory > > make[1]: *** [xemacs] Error 127 > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/devdisk/d54man/gnu/xemacs-beta/xemacs-21.2/i62-r4k/src' > > make: *** [src] Error 1 > > This is not failure this is success :-). The pdump'er doesn't produce > xemacs it produces an xemacs.dmp file > > Start "./temacs" and it will see the xemacs.dmp file is there and load > it. > OK, I tried this and it does seem to work. If I start temacs from any other directory than src then I get a "temacs can only be run in -batch mode" message. Surely end users aren't expected to work like this ? -- Paul

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Package Numbers 25 years

Andreas Jaeger

What's the philosophy behind the numbering scheme for packages? I guess the number should get increased for each release if anything has changed. Or are their more sophisticated rules when (and when not) to increase a package? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger SuSE Labs aj(a)suse.de private aj(a)arthur.rhein-neckar.de

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[BUG] `scroll-up' command broken in 21.2-b20 (AIX 4.3.2) 25 years

ALTMARK＠de.ibm.com

--text follows this line-- This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team, not to your local site managers!! Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. In XEmacs 21.2 (beta20) "Yoko" [Lucid] (rs6000-ibm-aix4.3.2.0) of Wed Nov 10 1999 on pdw22.boeblingen.de.ibm.com configured using `configure rs6000-ibm-aix4.3.2.0 --site-includes=/afs/bb/rs_aix43/usr/local/include --site-libraries=/afs/bb/rs_aix43/usr/local/lib --compiler=cc '--cflags=-O -qmaxmem=-1 -I/usr/include/Motif1.2 /usr/lpp/X11/lib/R6/Motif1.2/Xm12.imp /usr/lpp/X11/lib/R6/Motif1.2/Mrm12.imp' --debug=no --error-checking=none --prefix=/afs/bb/u/altmark/rs_aix43/xemacs --with-jpeg' Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: Actions: 1. Started Xemacs: xemacs -vanilla & 2. Load any file, e.g. ~/.Xdefaults 3. Press the <Page Down> key (i.e. `next') which runs `scroll-up-command' or issue `M-x scroll-up RET' 4. The text does not scroll. Notes: 1. Jumping to the end of the buffer using `C-end' or `M-x end-of-buffer' works. 2. Scrolling down (e.g. from the end of the buffer) pressing the <Page Up> key or via `M-x scroll-down RET is ok. 3. Scrolling up and down dragging the scrollbar's slider also works, but if I click on the area of the scrollbar *below* the slider, the slider does not move down (and does not scroll the text). Clicking above the slider (e.g. when at the end of the buffer) works as expected. 4. As far as I can remember, I had the same effect with 21.2-b19 "Sneaky Bastard 19991102" a few days ago, but that one and b20 should be quite similar, right? Output of `M-x describe-installation': uname -a: AIX pdw22 3 4 009621754C00 ./configure 'rs6000-ibm-aix4.3.2.0' '--site-includes=/afs/bb/rs_aix43/usr/local/include' '--site-libraries=/afs/bb/rs_aix43/usr/local/lib' '--compiler=cc' '--cflags=-O -qmaxmem=-1 -I/usr/include/Motif1.2 /usr/lpp/X11/lib/R6/Motif1.2/Xm12.imp /usr/lpp/X11/lib/R6/Motif1.2/Mrm12.imp' '--debug=no' '--error-checking=none' '--prefix=/afs/bb/u/altmark/rs_aix43/xemacs' '--with-jpeg' XEmacs 21.2-b20 "Yoko" configured for `rs6000-ibm-aix4.3.2.0'. Where should the build process find the source code? /afs/bb/u/altmark/tools/xemacs/xemacs-21.2/build/xemacs What installation prefix should install use? /afs/bb/u/altmark/rs_aix43/xemacs What operating system and machine description files should XEmacs use? `s/aix4-2.h' and `m/ibmrs6000.h' What compiler should XEmacs be built with? cc_r -O -qmaxmem=-1 -I/usr/include/Motif1.2 /usr/lpp/X11/lib/R6/Motif1.2/Xm12.imp /usr/lpp/X11/lib/R6/Motif1.2/Mrm12.imp Should XEmacs use the GNU version of malloc? yes Should XEmacs use the relocating allocator for buffers? yes What window system should XEmacs use? x11 Where do we find X Windows header files? /usr/dt/include Where do we find X Windows libraries? /usr/dt/lib Additional header files: /afs/bb/rs_aix43/usr/local/include Additional libraries: /afs/bb/rs_aix43/usr/local/lib Compiling in support for XAUTH. Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG image handling. Compiling in support for (builtin) GIF image handling. Compiling in support for JPEG image handling. Compiling in support for DBM. Compiling in support for CDE. Compiling in support for ToolTalk. Compiling in EXPERIMENTAL support for Drag'n'Drop ( CDE ). Compiling in support for proper WM_COMMAND handling. Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Motif native widgets. Using Motif dialog boxes. *WARNING* The Motif dialog boxes cause problems on AIX 4.3 and higher. We recommend using the Athena dialog boxes instead. Install libXaw and re-run configure with --with-dialogs='athena'. Read the PROBLEMS file for more information. movemail will use "lockf" for locking mail spool files. Recent keystrokes: C-x C-f . X d e f a u l t s RET next ESC x s c r o l l - u p RET misc-user Recent messages (most recent first): Parsing /afs/bb/u/altmark/.mailrc... Loading mail-abbrevs...done Loading mail-abbrevs... Loading emacsbug...done Loading emacsbug... Loading xrdb-mode...done Loading xrdb-mode... Loading efs-cu...done Loading efs-cu... --- Markus Alt IBM Laboratory Boeblingen, Germany

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Re: Yes, Virginia, that is really XEmacs 21.2.20 on the FTP site 25 years

Hrvoje Niksic

Jason R Mastaler <jason(a)xemacs.org> writes: > SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org> writes: > > > I'll make a regular announcement over xemacs-announce tomorrow. > > Actually, please don't. Remember, since all xemacs-announce > messages will also go to both the xemacs (comp.emacs.xemacs) and > xemacs-beta lists, we decided it would be best to send Beta related > messages to xemacs-beta only, and continue to send all other > announcements to xemacs-announce. When xemacs-announce was started, we agreed that the beta announcements *will* go to the announce list. Even in the "worst" case of having weekly betas, the announce list would still be low-traffic. This is, for instance, how the Gnus announce list operates. I agree that the beta announcements shouldn't be forwarded to c.e.x. Maybe a filter should filter out the announcements with the word "beta" in the subject?

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Re: Yes, Virginia, that is really XEmacs 21.2.20 on the FTP site 25 years

SL Baur

Kyle Jones <kyle_jones(a)wonderworks.com> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > Karl Kleinpaste writes: >> Looking at the dir, I see: >> >> xemacs-21.2.19.tar.gz 6500 Kb Thu Jul 29 23:52:00 1999 >> xemacs-21.2.20.tar.gz 8907 Kb Wed Nov 10 04:29:00 1999 >> >> Good lord. Has 21.2 *really* grown 2.4Mbytes (compressed!) between 2 >> beta releases? Over a third larger than the previous release? > The info and elc files are back in the core tar file. I'm sure > this accounts for almost all the size increase. Yup. In 21.2.19 the -info tarball is 1.5MB and the -elc tarball is .79MB. If having these put into the core is a problem I will take them back out. If you have a problem with the size and you are living in an area with highly expensive telecommunications, your vote counts for more.

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spam from mailing list 25 years

James N. Potts

I'm getting a little tired of the "laser printer toner advertisement" spam from the mailing list. Can't these be filtered out (if not at the majordomo level, then at the MT level)? James Potts

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