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Re: New SUMO tarballs available! 26 years, 7 months

Didier Verna

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: > I think it looks in packages last, so it will find the leim package in > SUMO. Moreover it will complain loudly that you have two autoload > files for leim. Hmm, I'll rephrase it more clearly: currently, all my packages are under .../lib/xemacs/packages/[lisp|info|etc]. I was assuming that xemacs would then look for lisp code under the packages/lisp directory. So if I remove all my packages and use the SUMO tarball, I was wondering why it would eventually browse all those nyanyanya-packages directories. Now I guess that that what xemacs does is look recursively through all directories under packages/ that may contain a lisp/ dir ?

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Re: New SUMO tarballs available! 26 years, 7 months

Jan Vroonhof

Didier Verna <verna(a)inf.enst.fr> writes: > > lib/xemacs/site-packages > > lib/xemacs/mule-packages > > lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages > > lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/sumo/README > > > So let's start this war again ;-) I HATE THOSE NAMES !!!! I am not partial to them either. But 1. It is too late now. These ARE the advertised paths. 2. They are very convenient in the case of SUMO. It is very clear which packages are your own and which can be "rm -rf"ed if you are not running MULE. 3. I have no idea what happens when you load a true MULE package into a latin-1 XEmacs (the auto-autoloads file could well have mule stuff in it) but as SUMO contains ALL package it nice to have them automatically avoided by a latin1 XEmacs. > .../lib/xemacs/packages/. Notably, leim which is mule related is under > packages/lisp/ as any others. Will xemacs still find them with this SUMO > tarball installed ? I think it looks in packages last, so it will find the leim package in SUMO. Moreover it will complain loudly that you have two autoload files for leim. Jan

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Re: Need internal help please (dynamic loading support) 26 years, 7 months

William M. Perry

karlheg(a)inetarena.com (Karl M. Hegbloom) writes: > >>>>> "William" == William M Perry <wmperry(a)aventail.com> writes: > > William> Do all platforms have the idea of an 'initialization' > William> function for dynamic libraries? I know most elf systems > William> do with _init and _fini, and windows has DllMain. It > William> would be nice to just hook into that for doing the > William> DEFSUBR() and things instead of having the somewhat > William> arbitrary emacs_initializate function name. > > After those init sections are executed, are they released from RAM? > I imagine they must be... it just makes sense. They are not sections in the binary file. It is just a normal function, same as any other, so would stay resident. > William> [...] putting some of the core functionality of XEmacs in > William> a libxemacs.so or something like that. I don't know if > William> that's worth it or not though. > > I think it would be. You could then write a small editor/lisp with > no display code for running scripts with. Hadn't thought of that. Hmmm... -Bill P.

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Re: Text properties slow down XEmacs 26 years, 7 months

Hrvoje Niksic

Thanks Ben; this was very instructive. Perhaps someone should type this and put it to `Architecting XEmacs' web site. I don't have time to work on it right now, but it does sound very interesting. Perhaps in a month or two. If someone wants to take it, please do! -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- aibohphobia (ay' bo fo beeya): n. The fear of palindromes.

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Re: New SUMO tarballs available! 26 years, 7 months

Didier Verna

Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: > lib/xemacs/site-packages > lib/xemacs/mule-packages > lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages > lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/sumo/README So let's start this war again ;-) I HATE THOSE NAMES !!!! Seriously, currently, all my packages are under .../lib/xemacs/packages/. Notably, leim which is mule related is under packages/lisp/ as any others. Will xemacs still find them with this SUMO tarball installed ?

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New sumo.el 26 years, 7 months

Jan Vroonhof

As I stated before. I would really like this to be run by someone else closer to ftp.xemacs.org: Features 1. Torture test to check for consistency of package-get-base and ftp site. 2. Can exclude packages by request. 3. Does not include 'unstable' packages. 4. Deals with retrieval errors. 5. Auto generates README/ (require 'package-get) (defvar sumo-package-exclusion-list '(vc-cc "Conflicts with normal VC package.") "PList of packages not included in sumo packages with the reason for it.") (defvar sumo-temp-dir "/scratch/" "Make sure this is big") (defun sumo-make-sumo (todir &optional base no-mule) (interactive "DTarball dest:") (let* ((temp (make-temp-name (expand-file-name "sumo" sumo-temp-dir))) (base (or base (format-time-string "xemacs-sumo-%Y%m%d"))) (name (concat base ".tar.gz")) (readme (concat base ".README")) (site-dir (expand-file-name "lib/xemacs/site-packages/" temp)) (mule (expand-file-name "lib/xemacs/mule-packages/" temp)) (dest (expand-file-name "lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/" temp)) (excl (copy-sequence sumo-package-exclusion-list)) errored versions (sumo-package-list (delete-if (lambda (p) (or (plist-member excl (car p) ) (when (nth 2 p) (setq excl (nconc excl (list (car p) "Package in Development/Unstable.")))))) (mapcar (lambda (entry) (list (car entry) (or (eq (car entry) 'mule-base) (memq 'mule-base (plist-get (cadr entry) 'requires))) (eq (plist-get (cadr entry) 'distribution) 'unstable) (plist-get (cadr entry) 'version) (plist-get (cadr entry) 'author-version))) package-get-base)))) (display-message 'progress (concat "Fetching packages for" name)) (make-directory temp t) (make-directory site-dir t) (make-directory mule t) (make-directory dest t) (setq versions (mapcar (lambda (p) (unless (and no-mule (cadr p)) (condition-case error-data (progn (package-get (car p) nil 'always (if (cadr p) mule dest)) (list (car p) (nth 3 p) (nth 4 p))) (error (setq excl (plist-put excl (car p) (concat "Error: " (error-message-string error-data)))) (setq errored t) nil)))) sumo-package-list)) (condition-case () (make-directory (expand-file-name "etc/sumo" dest) 'with-parents) (error nil)) (sumo-make-readme (list (expand-file-name "etc/sumo/README" dest) (expand-file-name readme todir)) name (plist-to-alist excl) versions) (call-process "chmod" nil nil nil "-R" "go+rX" temp) (setq name (expand-file-name name todir)) (if no-mule (call-process "tar" nil nil nil "--directory" temp "--create" "--gzip" "--file" name "lib/xemacs/site-packages" "lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages") (call-process "tar" nil nil nil "--directory" temp "--create" "--gzip" "--file" name "lib/xemacs/site-packages" "lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages" "lib/xemacs/mule-packages")) (call-process "rm" nil nil nil "-rf" temp) (if errored (message "There were errors while installing packages")))) (defun sumo-make-readme (readmes tarball excl in) (with-temp-buffer (insert "This is the README file describing the XEmacs SUMO package tarball. You can generally find it under the name xemacs-sumo-<date>.tar.gz. Where <date> is the ISO style date of creation. The current tarball is named: " tarball " The SUMO package tarball is intended for those who have more bandwidth and disk space than time to figure out which packages they need. It includes almost all XEmacs packages in their version at time of creation. The packages have been put in the directory structure recommend for XEmacs packages. For convenience of use with XEmacs binary distributions the SUMO tarball contains these with a 'lib/xemacs' prefix. In particular it contains lib/xemacs/site-packages Put packages that are not official XEmacs packages here. (Empty). lib/xemacs/mule-packages All packages related to the operation of a MULE enabled XEmacs. Non MULE XEmacsen do not use them. lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages (Almost) all current official XEmacs packages that are not MULE related. lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/sumo/README This README. Current packages NOT included in the SUMO tarball: ") (mapc (lambda (e) (insert (format "%s (%s)\n" (car e) (cdr e)))) excl) (insert " Packages that are included (package, version (author version)): ") (mapc (lambda (e) (if e (insert (if (nth 2 e) (format "%s, %s (%s)\n" (car e) (cadr e) (nth 2 e)) (format "%s, %s\n" (car e) (cadr e)))))) in) ;; Now write the stuff (mapc 'write-file readmes)))

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[urgent] missing packages 26 years, 7 months

Jan Vroonhof

[Running sumo.el is a good torture test for the ftp site and the package-get-base data, highly recommended] > Current packages NOT included in the SUMO tarball: > sounds-wav (Error: Unable to find file sounds-wav-1.02-pkg.tar.gz) > sounds-au (Error: Unable to find file sounds-au-1.02-pkg.tar.gz) > mew (Error: Unable to find file mew-1.0-pkg.tar.gz) These are missing from the ftp:/ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages Jan

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New SUMO tarballs available! 26 years, 7 months

Jan Vroonhof

Please check out http://www.math.ethz.ch/~vroonhof/emacs/xemacs-sumo-19980911.tar.README http://www.math.ethz.ch/~vroonhof/emacs/xemacs-sumo-19980911.tar.gz The (autogenerated) readme follows below: This is the README file describing the XEmacs SUMO package tarball. You can generally find it under the name xemacs-sumo-<date>.tar.gz. Where <date> is the ISO style date of creation. The current tarball is named: xemacs-sumo-19980911.tar.gz The SUMO package tarball is intended for those who have more bandwidth and disk space than time to figure out which packages they need. It includes all most all XEmacs packages in their version at time of creation. The packages have been put in the directory structure recommend for XEmacs packages. For convenience of use with XEmacs binary distributions the SUMO tarball contains these with a 'lib/xemacs' prefix. In particular it contains lib/xemacs/site-packages Put packages that are not official XEmacs packages here. (Empty). lib/xemacs/mule-packages All packages related to the operation of a MULE enabled XEmacs. Non MULE XEmacsen do not use them. lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages (Almost) all current official XEmacs packages that are not MULE related. lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/etc/sumo/README This README. Current packages NOT included in the SUMO tarball: sounds-wav (Error: Unable to find file sounds-wav-1.02-pkg.tar.gz) sounds-au (Error: Unable to find file sounds-au-1.02-pkg.tar.gz) mew (Error: Unable to find file mew-1.0-pkg.tar.gz) vc-cc (Conflicts with normal VC package.) gnus (Package in Development/Unstable.) Packages that are included (package, version (author version)): eudc, 1.21 (1.21) footnote, 1.05 (0.18x) gnats, 1.05 (3.101) gnus, 1.27 (5.6.43x1) irchat, 1.00 (980625-2) mailcrypt, 1.04 (3.4) mh-e, 1.06 (21.0) net-utils, 1.08 (21.0) rmail, 1.04 (21.0) supercite, 1.08 (3.55x2) tm, 1.12 (21.0) vm, 1.10 (6.53) w3, 1.08 (4.0pre23) zenirc, 1.00 (2.112) cookie, 1.07 (21.0) games, 1.05 (1.04) mine, 1.07 (1.9) misc-games, 1.06 (21.0) Sun, 1.07 (21.0) apel, 1.05 (3.3) dired, 1.01 (7.9) edebug, 1.04 (21.0) efs, 1.09 (1.17) fsf-compat, 1.01 (21.0) mail-lib, 1.16 (21.0) tooltalk, 1.06 (21.0) xemacs-base, 1.23 (21.0) xemacs-devel, 1.15 (21.0) edict, 1.04 (0.9.8) egg-its, 1.09 (21.0) leim, 1.08 (21.0) locale, 1.08 (21.0) mule-base, 1.21 (21.0) skk, 1.08 (10.38) calc, 1.07 (2.02fX3) calendar, 1.06 (21.0) edit-utils, 1.28 (21.0) forms, 1.06 (2.10) frame-icon, 1.03 (21.0) hm--html-menus, 1.06 (5.9) ispell, 1.09 (3.0x2) pc, 1.11 (21.0) psgml, 1.08 (1.01) sgml, 1.01 (21.0) slider, 1.06 (0.3x1) speedbar, 1.05 (0.6.2) strokes, 1.01 (21.0) text-modes, 1.09 (21.0) time, 1.04 (1.17) eterm, 1.05 (21.0) igrep, 1.02 (2.83) ilisp, 1.04 (5.8) os-utils, 1.09 (21.0) view-process, 1.03 (2.4) ada, 1.03 (2.27) c-support, 1.07 (21.0) cc-mode, 1.11 (5.22) debug, 1.04 (21.0) ediff, 1.09 (2.70.2) emerge, 1.02 (21.0) jde, 1.04 (2.05) pcl-cvs, 1.11 (21.0) prog-modes, 1.09 (21.0) scheme, 1.03 (21.0) sh-script, 1.05 (2.0e) vc, 1.11 (21.0) vhdl, 1.04 (2.74) auctex, 1.11 (9.7p) crisp, 1.06 (1.34) edt, 1.04 (21.0) reftex, 1.06 (3.38) texinfo, 1.11 (21.0) textools, 1.05 (21.0) tpu, 1.05 (4.2X) viper, 1.08 (3.03)

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Re: fix for redisplay! 26 years, 7 months

Didier Verna

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <turnbull(a)sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> writes: > Isn't one of the important points in a redisplay rewrite to do > something a little more sensible with 2D formatting so that Bill Perry > can write an even nicer w3.el, and images bigger than the frame can be > scrolled sensibly, and maybe we might even get subwindows back? ... and we can get multiple text lines on the side of a big image and ... yes, exactly, that's what seems the most important thing to me. Now that we have a CVS archive for the developpement tree, I think a team of good boys could make it (taking the time it needs to be done) even if not working on it full time.

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Re: [Bug] custom/widget; additional quotes w/ :type '(repeat sexp) 26 years, 7 months

Christoph Wedler

>>>>>"Hrvoje" == Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: Hrvoje> Yikes! Disgusting. I think it's a bug with the printing process. We Hrvoje> never did quite solve the problems with printer. Another custom bug (probably related): (defcustom cw-choice-alist '(("1" . car) ("2" . "2")) "test" :type '(repeat (cons :value ("a" . "z") regexp (choice string function)))) After button2 on [INS], I get -- note function ("z") instead correct String z Cw Choice Alist: * [INS] [DEL] Cons-cell: Regexp: 1 Choice: [Value Menu] Function: car [INS] [DEL] Cons-cell: Regexp: 2 Choice: [Value Menu] String: 2 [INS] [DEL] Cons-cell: Regexp: a Choice: [Value Menu] Function: ("z") [INS] - Christoph BTW, is this XEmacs specific, is Per reading this list or should I email him?

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