October 1998 - XEmacs-Beta - XEmacs Mailing List Archives

Jan Vroonhof

tom <tom(a)pixelpark.com> writes: > menu entry always reads 'check in file <filename>' . > This is quite irritating. You did use the package with XEmacs 21.0 did you? > i have a (load "vc") in my .emacs and no other vc related variables are > set. You should just have a '(require 'vc-hooks) but that shouldn't matter. Jan

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Re: gnuclient 26 years, 2 months

Raymond Toy

>>>>> "Jan" == Jan Vroonhof <vroonhof(a)math.ethz.ch> writes: Jan> Jeff Miller <jmiller(a)smart.net> writes: >> did someone weird happen with gnuclient with this latest beta or is it me? Jan> Somebody's windows patch broke the UNIX version That would be me. Sorry! Ray

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Abnormal termination 21.0 "Poitou" 26 years, 2 months

Marcus Thiessel

While reading News (gnus) I got the following message Error: Object "" does not have windowed ancestor and XEmacs exited with status 1 when I hit catchup&exit button. No core, no backtrace. This happened while booted on HP-UX 11.0 (Motif 2.1). --Marcus

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Re: gnuclient 26 years, 2 months

Jan Vroonhof

Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> writes: > Shouldn't this have gone to xemacs-patches? Anyway, I (naturally) > approve it. I also sent it there (with Changelog). I have the feeling that some of my messages to xemacs-patches have been lost in the past and that this might be due to some of them being CC xemacs-beta and confusing some mail filters. I'll try to sent the xemacs-patches mails separate in the future and see if that helps. Jan

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Re: Doumentation fix request (semi-sorta-urgent) 26 years, 2 months

Hrvoje Niksic

jareth(a)camelot.co.jp (P. E. Jareth Hein) writes: > I just got a 'bug-report' complaining that regexp-opt generates > incorrect regexps. Well, asside from the fact that I'm not sure > regexp-opt should generate shy groups by default, I do notice that > there is no mention of the shy groups functions or the minimal > matching operators in the info files. Huh? My info files contain this: `*?' works just like `*', except that rather than matching the longest match, it matches the shortest match. `*?' is known as a "non-greedy" quantifier, a regexp construct borrowed from Perl. This construct very useful for when you want to match the text inside a pair of delimiters. For instance, `/\*.*?\*/' will match C comments in a string. This could not be achieved without the use of greedy quantifier. This construct has not been available prior to XEmacs 20.4. It is not available in FSF Emacs. `+?' is the `+' analog to `*?'. `\{n,m\}' serves as an interval quantifier, analogous to `*' or `+', but specifies that the expression must match at least N times, but no more than M times. This syntax is supported by most Unix regexp utilities, and has been introduced to XEmacs for the version 20.3. `$?: ... $' is called a "shy" grouping operator, and it is used just like `$ ... $', except that it does not cause the matched substring to be recorded for future reference. This is useful when you need a lot of grouping `$ ... $' constructs, but only want to remember one or two. Then you can use not want to remember them for later use with `match-string'. Using `$?: ... $' rather than `$ ... $' when you don't need the captured substrings ought to speed up your programs some, since it shortens the code path followed by the regular expression engine, as well as the amount of memory allocation and string copying it must do. The actual performance gain to be observed has not been measured or quantified as of this writing. The shy grouping operator has been borrowed from Perl, and has not been available prior to XEmacs 20.3, nor is it available in FSF Emacs. -- Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic(a)srce.hr> | Student at FER Zagreb, Croatia --------------------------------+-------------------------------- What is mind? No matter. What is matter? Never mind.

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Re: package update is not idempotent 26 years, 2 months

SL Baur

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > I get auctex installed every time I do an update. Starting and stopping > xemacs makes no difference. There's a bug in the auctex package (it doesn't include tex-site.el). Did I forget anything else?

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Doumentation fix request (semi-sorta-urgent) 26 years, 2 months

Jareth Hein

I just got a 'bug-report' complaining that regexp-opt generates incorrect regexps. Well, asside from the fact that I'm not sure regexp-opt should generate shy groups by default, I do notice that there is no mention of the shy groups functions or the minimal matching operators in the info files. Now, since I've been poking around through the regexp code I have a good idea of what they are, but would like to ask someone who can come up with good reasons for their existance to write 'em up. Otherwise, if you can provide a couple of good samples, I'll take a stab at it... -- Jareth Hein | jareth(a)camelot.co.jp | ハインジェラス Toolsmith & Program lead | http://www.camelot.co.jp | 開発部チーフ Camelot Software, Ltd. | |（株）キャメロット "It's a sad sign of the times when 'political machine' is redefined to include 'main-line battle tank'" - Ambassador Grossblunder

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manifest fix 26 years, 2 months

Andy Piper

This fixes my update package problems on cygwin 1998-10-01 Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> * package-admin.el (package-admin-delete-binary-package): predicate MANFIEST deletion on the existence of the file. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp

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Re: package system is too fragile 26 years, 2 months

SL Baur

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > The current package delete is great but too optimistic in its > operation. I often end up having the delete fail so that the > install doesn't work, but the delete has worked enough so that I > don't have the package adn so I am left with a subfucntional > XEmacs. Package delete whould try and do all its housekeeping > *before* actually nuking the package. O.K. In my hand installations since the introduction of pkginfo/, I have not had a single failure updating by hand via $ rm `cat pkginfo/MANIFEST.<package>` $ tar zxf <staging>/<package>-pkg.tar.gz There's hope this can work correctly.

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Re: package update bug 26 years, 2 months

SL Baur

Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk> writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: > I am getting problems updating my packages under the latest beta. Basically > I get: > "Doign chmod: NO such file or directory, <sompath>/pkginfo/MANIFEST.somepkg" It's not handling an obsolete package format properly (ie. lack of pkginfo files). > and the update aborts (so I can't update everything). Surely this error is > not a showstopper? Although I think the bug is. This is *not* a showstopper, though I agree that it is unfortunate. We're going to assume that everyone loads current packages either via the SUMO tarball or ftp. In either case, pkginfo/ will be fully populated with MANIFEST.<package> files. *IMPORTANT* If you don't have fully populated pkginfo/ directories, *please*, *please* update your packages immediately. We need testing. Besides VM, I have found packaging errors in other packages and we need to catch them all. Thanks.

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