>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing
Ben> also, can anyone make any comments about good mailers?
I've always liked VM. The only problem I have with it is that it
doesn't tickle anywhere near as many bugs and GNU incompatibilities as
Gnus does, so I've switched to Gnus.
Ben> google's gmail is wonderful about threading, which i find
Ben> makes it much easier to have xemacs mixed with other mail ...
Ben> but i'd rather use a local mailer, e.g. thunderbird.
Actually, from what I've heard gmail doesn't handle threads very well
at all. Apparently there's an 18-month old bug report, it gets
reopened every few weeks, and Gmail basically replies "only 1% of you
care, and we're not going to mess with it, it's fragile and 99% are
satisfied." The claim is that Gmail totally breaks if there are
people who know how threads are *supposed* to work, and do things like
retitle threads when the topic changes or the thread splits into
subthreads. This apparently causes Gmail users to lose 100% of
context. Gmail also apparently breaks threads every time you post;
unless your respondent top-posts, you have to go find your own message
in the out-tray.
YMMV, but be aware that lots of people are unhappy with Gmail
threading for plausible reasons.
An alternative---for your XEmacs traffic only---would be to move our
discussion to an issue tracker, such as Roundup or Trac. (These are
both Python programs, which makes me happier about maintaining them.
Two plausible alternatives are Bugzilla and RT, but they're both Perl
programs; I don't have time to deal with modern Perl. Bugzilla also
still sucks at handling mail, which is important to me personally, and
one project I know of---Darcs---just dumped their RT installation in
disgust. They're moving to Trac because that's what ghc (Glasgow
Ben> does anyone know of mail programs for windows that are able
Ben> to *really* handle threads intelligently, similar to the way
Ben> that gmail does it?
What I've seen on Mailman-Users suggests that you'll just have to try
them, because nobody seems to know. Intelligent threading is not high
on the list of things the Windows market demands.
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