On 5/23/06, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> wrote:
>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing
Ben> also, can anyone make any comments about good mailers?
I've always liked VM. The only problem I have with it is that it
doesn't tickle anywhere near as many bugs and GNU incompatibilities as
Gnus does, so I've switched to Gnus.
Ben> google's gmail is wonderful about threading, which i find
Ben> makes it much easier to have xemacs mixed with other mail ...
Ben> but i'd rather use a local mailer, e.g. thunderbird.
Actually, from what I've heard gmail doesn't handle threads very well
at all. Apparently there's an 18-month old bug report, it gets
reopened every few weeks, and Gmail basically replies "only 1% of you
care, and we're not going to mess with it, it's fragile and 99% are
satisfied." The claim is that Gmail totally breaks if there are
people who know how threads are *supposed* to work, and do things like
retitle threads when the topic changes or the thread splits into
subthreads. This apparently causes Gmail users to lose 100% of
context. Gmail also apparently breaks threads every time you post;
unless your respondent top-posts, you have to go find your own message
in the out-tray.
i guess what i mean is, google automatically threads, and sorts
threads correctly (according to the newest message), and shows you a
list of the senders in the main index window, and shows you snippets
of the mail text in the index window, and shows you all the threads
together when you click on it, and generally does lots of other things
in a very convenient fashion. most other mailers don't sort the
threads right, don't show much context so you have to manually click
on them to see anything, show each message separately, etc. etc.
btw you complained about cvs; everyone i know seems to be moving to
subversion. any thoughts? i think you looked into this quite a lot,
but this might have been awhile ago.